To: formercalifornian
If you can read my past posts on THAT subject, you would indeed see that I have railed against my co-religionists unfailingly. I have said, for instance, that Allan Dershowitz has created more Jew-hatred than he has ever squelched--and the same goes for Chuckie Schumer, Barbra Streisand and the entire mailing list of the ACLU.
AS a matter of fact, I have gotten myself in trouble with the "Jews are always right crowd" here at FR. So before you accuse, know your facts.
Second, as someone who does NOT believe in the afterlife, the whole issue is bogus to me; however, it is still--IMO--obnoxious and presumptuous since there are Jews who believe in this stuff.
Let's say that you're a religious Methodist, and some rabbi comes along and says that he now converted a dead relative of yours to Judaism: is that ok with you?
14 posted on
12/21/2003 6:12:27 AM PST by
Pharmboy
(History's greatest agent for democracy: The US Armed Forces)
To: Pharmboy
Posthumous acts of ANY kind can only be done by and for those still living ; does anyone seriously think the awarding of medals or baptisms can affect the dead person?
I can understand the idea of prayer for the dead in which one asks for God's mercy on the deceased . For all the good that many Mormons do, I am afraid they are followers of a clever cult leader who sprinkled enough Truth in his fantasy to confound and confuse many.
To: Pharmboy; formercalifornian
Let's say that you're a religious Methodist, and some rabbi comes along and says that he now converted a dead relative of yours to Judaism: is that ok with you?
I'd have to laugh at him, because THEY'RE DEAD AND THEY DON'T CARE.
22 posted on
12/21/2003 7:12:22 AM PST by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: Pharmboy
Let's say that you're a religious Methodist, and some rabbi comes along and says that he now converted a dead relative of yours to Judaism: is that ok with you? Can I laugh in his face or do I have to be polite?
68 posted on
12/21/2003 12:36:28 PM PST by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Prancer II: Pass the Mashed Potatoes and Gravy. - Delicious! A Holiday Movie for the whole family!)
To: Pharmboy
Let's say that you're a religious Methodist, and some rabbi comes along and says that he now converted a dead relative of yours to Judaism: is that ok with you?
First thing it wouldn't matter to me in the least. Because I don't believe in the Jewish Way. But secondly, the Mormons never say that they convert the dead, they say that they offer the dead the oppertunity to convert ie salvation. So what is the big deal? The Mormons do it to everybody. And the Catholic nuns pray that all the souls world wide will be converted to The One True Church. Am I offended? No. It is not my faith. It has nothing to do with me. It is all about them. No big deal.
89 posted on
12/21/2003 7:31:14 PM PST by
mlmr
(Drivel, tedious, trivial drivel, I tell you...)
To: Pharmboy
You are incorrect when you assume Mormons are saying they converted anyone posthumously. They have only done the work for the dead, should the deceased decide to accept that work or not. That's substantially different from your interpretation of what this work is all about.
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