To: Pharmboy
Hold the phone. If the Jews don't believe in Jesus then why do they give a hoot what goes on in the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints? I don't get this.
12 posted on
12/21/2003 5:50:40 AM PST by
Saundra Duffy
(For victory & freedom!!!)
To: Saundra Duffy
Most of the Jews complaining are liberal, gastronomic Jews. If people don;t hold by the LDS faith, then these "baprisms" should have no meaning. Perhaps the Jewish individuals complainibg should focus their attentions on the sand nazis who would exterminate them. Bringing in Eva Rodham Braun into this is evident of a thought disorder!
To: Saundra Duffy
There is a nasty history of some "Christians" forcibly converting Jews. Often Jews had to convert or pretend to convert to Christianity in order to not be discriminated against or even in order to be allowed to live. So I can understand how a lot of Jews might be carrying baggage about this -- the whole issue of conversion might have the implied meaning that the only good Jew is a dead or converted Jew. It does kind of imply that being Jewish is somehow not legitimate, at least.
I think I do understand how a Jew might get a creepy feeling from a Christian proselitizing. The Jewish person might get the feeling that the Christian was seeking to convert him so that he could brag about converting "his Jew." Kind of like the souls of Jewish people are novelty-items that Christians can collect. The unavoidable association with the Holocaust gives this an even more sinister character -- imagine Nazis collecting Jewish bodies and "Christians" collecting Jewish souls -- as if people are playthings to be destroyed on a whim or trophies to be collected. Now, I don't think the Mormon Church is Christian in any traditional sense, but that is my take on things.
I don't imply that you had any bad intentions with your question. I do think that Christians sometimes underestimate the truly poisonous history that will always cast a shadow on things.
45 posted on
12/21/2003 10:13:23 AM PST by
Wilhelm Tell
(Lurking since 1997!)
To: Saundra Duffy
I wasn't aware that there were that many Jews who gave a damn.
46 posted on
12/21/2003 10:32:35 AM PST by
gaspar
To: Saundra Duffy
Hold the phone. If the Jews don't believe in Jesus then why do they give a hoot what goes on in the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints? I don't get this. I think that is why they are upset Saundra, because they do not believe that Jesus was Messiah. Therefore they do not want to be baptized by proxy in His name. This is offensive to them, and you would most likely have to be Jewish to understand that.
460 posted on
12/22/2003 4:35:44 PM PST by
ladyinred
(If all the world's a stage, I want to operate the trap door!)
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