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Israel Warned Over Seperation Fence As Syria Threatens Revenge
Independent (UK) ^ | 10-12-2003 | Justin Huggler

Posted on 10/11/2003 3:01:30 PM PDT by blam

Israel warned over separation fence as Syria threatens revenge

By Justin Huggler in Jerusalem
12 October 2003

Days before the UN Security Council is due to debate Israel's "separation fence" in the West Bank, the Palestinians warned yesterday that if the fence is allowed to go ahead, it will mean "the end of the two-state solution" envisaged by President Bush.

Fears are growing, not only for what remains of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, but for the stability of the whole Middle East. The war of words between Syria and Israel after an Israeli air strike near Damascus intensified yesterday, with Syria threatening retaliation and Israel declaring it considered Syria a "legitimate target".

In the Gaza Strip, the biggest Israeli military operation in three months continued as soldiers demolished houses and took over a strip of Rafah refugee camp next to the border with Egypt. Another Palestinian was killed overnight, bringing the number of Palestinians dead in the operation to eight, two of them children.

The Palestinian Authority, meanwhile, is in chaos. There are serious doubts over President Yasser Arafat's health, amid rumours he has suffered a mild heart attack or has stomach cancer. What is clear is that he is visibly in bad health, and two teams of doctors are in attendance at his Muqata headquarters.

But he has been up to an explosive row over the newly appointed cabinet that has Ahmad Qureia threatening to become the second Palestinian Prime Minister to resign in as many months. The roadmap peace plan, personally backed by President Bush, looks all but consigned to history.

"We are approaching the moment of truth," the Palestinian envoy to the UN, Nasser al-Kidwa, warned yesterday as the Security Council scheduled an open discussion on Israel's separation fence for Tuesday. Israel claims the series of concrete walls and metal fences is to stop suicide bombers crossing. But its route cuts deep into the West Bank so Jewish settlements can be on the "Israeli" side and observers, including the US National Security Adviser, Condoleezza Rice, say it looks like an attempt to establish a new border.

If Israel doesn't stop building the fence, Mr al-Kidwa said, "this will mean the end of the two-state solution, and that will take us either to more drastic and radical solutions or a perpetual conflict. It should be looked at that seriously. It is not just another event."

However, the US is warning it may veto a draft Security Council resolution condemning the project. John Negroponte, the US ambassador to the UN, said: "We don't think that ... one-sided resolutions of this kind serve any useful purpose, even though we also recognise that we have our own reservations about Israeli actions with respect to construction of the wall."

The UN Secretary-General, Kofi Annan, condemned the military operation in the Gaza Strip yesterday, warning Israel "not for the first time ... that the disproportionate use of force in densely populated areas is not compatible with international humanitarian law". But with the US backing Israel ever more firmly, Mr Annan's warnings will have little resonance here.

The decisive moment of the week was when Mr Bush came out in favour of Israel's air strike on Syria - albeit with a gentle admonition to Israel to avoid "escalation". The President made his personal view clear, adding that "Israel must not feel constrained in terms of defending the homeland".

The row over that air strike - the first Israeli attack deep inside Syria for 30 years -- heated up again yesterday. A Syrian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman, Bushra Kanafani, warned: "In case of a repetition Syria has the right to exercise self-defence." Israel immediately responded, with a spokesman for its Foreign Ministry, Gideon Meir, declaring: "Israel views every state which is harbouring terrorist organisations, and the leaders of those terrorist organisations, who are attacking innocent citizens of Israel, as legitimate targets out of self-defence".(BRAVO!)

Israel said the bombing was in retaliation for the 4 October suicide bombing in Haifa, in which 20 people died, and claimed the targeted area was a training camp used by the militant group Islamic Jihad. But it quickly became apparent the camp was disused at the time of the strike. Another Palestinian militant group said it had been out of use for years. But the US and Israel claim to have evidence it was in use more recently.


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; Syria
KEYWORDS: fence; goodfence; iran; israel; lebanon; revenge; securitybarrier; seperation; syria
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1 posted on 10/11/2003 3:01:31 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
. . . this will mean the end of the two-state solution, and that will take us either to more drastic and radical solutions or a perpetual conflict.

I think he got one right and one wrong: It will lead to a more drastic solution that will end the perpetual conflict.

2 posted on 10/11/2003 3:08:38 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: All
Got a minute?
I'd really like you to rub my ears,
or help out FR.

3 posted on 10/11/2003 3:10:44 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: blam
Mazybe they should get the Egyptian doctors that are separating the twins conjoined at the head and let them separate Syria and Palestine at the head also.
4 posted on 10/11/2003 3:14:56 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: blam
By what right does the UN think it can tell Israel to stop building a fence on it's side of the supposed "occupied" territories? instead of bugging Mayor Street's office in Philly, maybe the FBI should be bugging the UN to find out what the hell is going on there.
5 posted on 10/11/2003 3:21:11 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: LibWhacker
"If Israel doesn't stop building the fence, Mr al-Kidwa said, "this will mean the end of the two-state solution, and that will take us either to more drastic and radical solutions or a perpetual conflict. It should be looked at that seriously. It is not just another event." "

What does the fence have to do with a Pal state, unless the Pal state includes Israel?
6 posted on 10/11/2003 3:27:30 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Israel!)
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To: SCHROLL
Makes you wonder why they don't want this fence built. Why not? Unless they have need for illegal passage into Israel... Oh nevermind.
7 posted on 10/11/2003 3:28:08 PM PDT by paul544 (3D-Joy OH Boy!!!)
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To: LibWhacker
How much more drastic can you get than a suicide bombing?
8 posted on 10/11/2003 3:33:09 PM PDT by thoughtomator (TANSTAAFL)
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To: blam
The UN Secretary-General, Kofi Annan, condemned the military operation in the Gaza Strip yesterday, warning Israel "not for the first time ... that the disproportionate use of force in densely populated areas is not compatible with international humanitarian law".


9 posted on 10/11/2003 3:36:53 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: paul544
Maybe they don't want the fence built because it is separating members of families from one another, blocking people from getting to their jobs, and taking the houses and fields of others.
10 posted on 10/11/2003 3:38:48 PM PDT by halfdome
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To: LibWhacker
Interesting. I always heard that good fences make good neighbors. Particularly when the neighbor appears as an old stone savage armed.
11 posted on 10/11/2003 3:44:45 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: halfdome
Fine. Then Israel should use eminent domain to move the non-citizens on its side of the fence. These would get market alue for their property and be asked to return to their relatives.
Problem solved.
12 posted on 10/11/2003 3:45:31 PM PDT by rmlew (Copperheads are traitors)
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To: blam
Israel will continue building the fence because 1) it avoids dealing with the problem, and 2) looks like they are doing something.

Activity substituting for achievement.

13 posted on 10/11/2003 3:54:14 PM PDT by tubavil
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To: halfdome
Maybe they don't want the fence built because it is separating members of families from one another, blocking people from getting to their jobs, and taking the houses

Screw 'em. That's the price they pay for Jihad and suicide bombings.

14 posted on 10/11/2003 3:57:39 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: halfdome
"Maybe they don't want the fence built because it is separating members of families from one another, blocking people from getting to their jobs, and taking the houses and fields of others."

Shoot'em, less scum on the earth.

15 posted on 10/11/2003 4:06:53 PM PDT by blam
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To: LibWhacker
I think he got one right and one wrong: It will lead to a more drastic solution that will end the perpetual conflict.

I'm with you. Victory can only be achieved either when one side in the conflict totally capitulates or is completely destroyed. The pacifists and tree-huggers don't want to hear that and all who share the view are war-mongerers, but it's true.

History has taught us that. Yet, for some damn reason, we let the UN and the Euro-weenies convince us that "negotiated" settlements are the "only way" to end disputes.

It's worked well in the Middle East, huh? And Korea. And the Balkans. And . . . hell, it didn't even work in my divorce and I'm a three hundred pound gorilla and my ex was not quite a hundred pound waif. I surrendered unconditionally.

16 posted on 10/11/2003 4:08:10 PM PDT by geedee (Why isn't there more female politicians? It's too much trouble to put makeup on two faces.)
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Oooooooh!

Those Eeeeevilll Israelis!

Building a fence on their territory to kep Pali bombers from coming over and blowing up school busses and pizzarias!
How dare they?
Tia

( do I really NEED to say "sarcasm"?)

17 posted on 10/11/2003 4:25:39 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: halfdome
Maybe they don't want the fence built because it is separating members of families from one another, blocking people from getting to their jobs, and taking the houses and fields of others.

LOL! You're right, it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it will prevent them from killing themselves along with several innocent Jewish women and children. (/sarcasm)

18 posted on 10/11/2003 4:27:22 PM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: blam
Ummm...does the UN actually do ANYTHING other than obstruct US foreign policy and condemn Israel?

This seems to be it's primary function [obsession].
19 posted on 10/11/2003 4:29:33 PM PDT by ConservativeConvert
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To: paul544
You need to look at the map of where the fence is being built to understand what the problems are. Here is a link that may help.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/daily/graphics/separating_092303.htm

20 posted on 10/11/2003 4:38:10 PM PDT by blueriver
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