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To: bootyist-monk
It doesn't really matter, of course. It's just a matter of what kind of line the RATS will spin. If Davis does come out ahead of Arnold, the same Sore Loserman types who still think Bush is illegit, will think something similar about Arnold.

Since it's pretty easy to get a recall started in CA, I wouldn't be surprised if those folks use the recall process for payback, especially if things go to hell and a handbasket in the next budget cycle here in CA.

You may not realize it but Gray and the dems -- with the help of a few repugs -- balanced the current budget basically by making it harder to balance the next budget.

We'll see what happens
4,114 posted on 10/08/2003 12:35:45 AM PDT by rightbanker
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I just read Prop 54. I think it's arguable that voters could be confused in thinking a "NO" vote supported the proposition.

I saw some misleading language in the proposal that could easily make one think voting "NO' was to stop the California government from collecting race data.

But that's just me.
4,115 posted on 10/08/2003 12:43:38 AM PDT by Fledermaus (I DONATED! HAVE YOU? DONATE NOW OR I'LL HAVE YOU TAKEN OFF THE DO NOT CALL LIST)
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To: rightbanker
We won the House
We won the Senate
We won the Exectutive
We continue to stock the Fed Judges with Conservatives
SCOTUS will earn 1 to 2 more conservative judges in the next 5 years.
TONIGHT WE WON THE DEM'S CROWN JEWEL OF CALIFORNIA.

If you want to find out what happens to the dems, just think of a little child losing everything, drip by drip, they will be focused on California and then.... they'll lose the California or New York Senate seats.

4,117 posted on 10/08/2003 12:48:39 AM PDT by Porterville (CALIFORNIA: FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, THANK GOD ALMIGHTY WE ARE FREE AT LAST)
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To: rightbanker
Actually, getting a recall together is a lot harder than the Rats want you to believe. Money alone won't do it. Right now, people want results, not payback politics. They will give Arnold a chance to start putting things into action, and if he rescinds the car tax and helps stop SB-60, he'll have more than enough political capital that any Rat-sponsered recall effort will die on the vine.

The budget deal was a complete shell-game that is already unravelling in the courts and on Wall Street, so the Rats are going to have to play ball on that score as well. The budget was not balanced as you claim. In fact, what happened is that 11 Billion dollars was moved off the books by borrowing against future budgets. However, this is illegal in California (you can't deficit finance over $300,000 without the consent of voters), so the budget deal is already being held up in court. And the bonds that were issued to provide the borrowed money are being rejected by investors.

The Rats realize that right now, Arnold has a bully pulpit unprescendented in California politics. This was as much about the Rat power elite as it was about Davis. The voters have put them on notice, and you could here it in the way some of the loyalists were talking... Brown, Sanchez, Burton were all sounding a note of cooperation.

Arnold's going to start with a complete, independent audit of the state's finances. That is going to be shining an uncomfortable light on quite a few legislators and Sacramento insiders.

I think the Rats are going to be willing to work with Arnold more than anyone can imagine.
4,119 posted on 10/08/2003 12:57:40 AM PDT by bootyist-monk (It's Enrico Palatso!)
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