Huge Blow to McClintock. California GOP to Formally Endorse Arnold Schwarzenegger 2pm PST Today

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

FOX NEWS:

The California GOP will announce today that it will endorse Arnold Schwarzenegger for their candidate for the governor of California.

The official announcement will come at 2pm Pacific time today.

This announcement comes as a big blow to Tom McClintock.

[glennaro]

The problem with your post at 17 on this thread is that by allowing your emotions to control your thinking, the point you are attempting to make is dismissed easily -- and necessarily -- as an out-of-control rant.

I can appreciate your passion while condemning your characterization of the many honorable, clear-thinking conservatives who comprise a sizable segment of the California Republican Party and who support Arnold for governor.

By your logic, because Arnold's conservative supporters, including Bill Simon and me, define a conservative victory in a different way than do you we want to "kill babies," "grab guns," "beat the servants" and seek to effect, if not less horrible, certainly a less-conservative policies.

You may have a point, but it is lost in the trash heap of your exaggerated if not outright false invective. I'm surprised that you would adopt the tired and ineffective liberal/Democrat/Left (forgive the redundancy) technique of using an emotional attack against those with whom you disagree.

[Vinomori]

You obviously don't know McClintock. He's a tried and true Republican conservative. I guess that's why you don't like him.

You are missing the whole point here. There are people MORE conservative than Tom, who KNOW Arnold is less conservative, but who are voting for Arnold because they want to make a difference rather than make a statement. The ballot process is for changing things and making a difference, not for making a statement. There are better places to make a statement.

[Avoiding_Sulla]

Ya know what BE? I think that there is an upside to the CAGOP endorsing AS.

We already know that conservatives ain't climbing on the Leftward-HO! Wilson-Kennedy spawn's bandwagon.

And the Indes and Dems who don't trust the GOP, but who were thinking of voting for AS, are now gonna take a long hard look at that choice again. If they are fed-up enough, they won't drink the Arnold or Buste koolaid, and will considering voting for the only candidate in the race who could legitimately stem and would ernestly try to fix the Sacramento seated problem.

Yeah, I know the clever ones never want to admit their machinations could ever backfire -- but this one has a delicious God's-hand type flavor to it should it develop. The overpowerful tend to overplay their hands often enough. This could be one of those "DOH!" times. If so, how very delightful.

God Bless you and yours as is fitting.

-Av

[Pagey]

Let me put my cynical SOB hat on for moment.If the vote gets split between A.S. and T.M, then Bustamente wins, California will still be run by a RAT, they'll have the awful RAT Legislature (which is controlled by RATS btw) which will still be trying to worm their way out of 40 Billion in intentional overspending and all taxes will be raised. Hmph, I'm still voting for McClintock, because Arnold doesn't represent me as a Republican and he absolutely should never be mentioned in the same breath as.

Ronald Reagan. Ever.

[luckystarmom]

If that happens, I feel certain that Arnold will win in a landslide! I think most voters are sick of the Davis attack methods.

Davis is toast!

[CyberAnt]

The G.O.P. chairs have never supported Tom - so there is no reason for him to even expect them to start now.

[daviddennis]

I don't go along with much bashing, period.

Unfortunately, those who go along with bashing tend to be a lot louder than those who don't.

Unfortunately, social issues tend to attract enormous passion on both sides, which is exactly why they are political poison. Embrace pro-abortion, lose all the anti-abortion people and vice versa.

I think the people for whom abortion, gun control or similar issues are vital deeply resent this fact. And what they resent even more is that the party that claims to represent them (in both sides!) very often doesn't when the chips are down, because it can be dreadfully unpopular.

Thus, Tom McClintock's statement that while he is against abortion and gun control, he's unlikely to work very hard in support of those issues.

I can't blame the people who consider these issues important for resenting a McClintock, and especially a Schwarzenegger, who rubs their noses in the fact that he doesn't support them. He may not support them, but you know what? He's happy to take their votes, more than happy.

I don't really like this sort of thing, and I don't think you do either, but it's just a fact of modern politics.

D

[jpl]

I happen to think that one important qualification for governor is the ability to get elected. Therefore I think Arnold is more qualified.

You know what I mean.

[evilsmoker]

You know very well what I mean - McClintock attracts more Independents despite the effort by Arnold supporters to paint him as someone who can only appeal to the "rightwing crazies" the GOP establishment hates. If you are happy supporting a liberal when there is a REAL and ELECTABLE conservative -- then go ahead and vote for Arnold. Just don't expect the rest of us to do it.

[Avoiding_Sulla]

Your post shows good reflective thought. But there is more than just what you identified as social issues at stake here.

For instance, Carry_okie has shown that AS, with his selection of cousin RFK Jr's as Csar for the enviromentality of an AS administration, cannot honestly be viewed as a fiscal conservative because his enviro-failout would further destroy the economic climate in California.

I don't readily have the link to it. I'm sure CO will be happy to direct you to it, and perhaps he will provide you with just a few of the essential ingredients of Arnold's enviro plan which reveal why conservatives need to remain skeptical of AS.

[nutmeg]

LOL! ;-D (#19)

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

I don't care if you comment .. commenting is fine - it just that I don't appreciate being called names and being insulted and insulted and insulted again and again and again - because I support someone other than Arnold.

I don't care if you support Arnold - but you have no right to tell me who I can or cannot vote for just because it isn't the person YOU WOULD VOTE FOR! I just sick of it!!

OK... Now here is exactly what I said in my post:

Although this should be true I can't believe that McClintock will see it as a big bolw. At this point he's only in it for the publicity, being so far behind in the polls and all. By gladly taking away voted from Arnold he shows that he could care less if CA has to put up with liberal demoncRATs from now on.

Please point out the name calling and insults that were direct towards you. There are none. You simply don't like it that other people disagree with what McClintock is doing (possibly being the spoiler) and, based on your comments, who you want to win in CA.

[RJayneJ]

Quote from Tom McClintock: "I have never been popular in the country club wing of the Republican Party."

I can't believe he would be stupid enough to say something like that. It just makes him look petty and small. 'You want some sour grapes with that whine?' When the party steps up and finally endorses a candidate, that's a pretty good indication that they expect all other Republicans to withdraw from the race. It was short-sighted on his part to make a statement that he was in it to the end, knowing he could wind up a spoiler candidate.

[LongsforReagan]

You sound like a typical class warfare Democrat. Albeit a pro life one. I guess there is nowhere for you to go. Tom McClintock seems like a reasonable rational intelligent man, why arent his supporters?

[CyberAnt]

You are insulting my intelligence when you say that I would support a person who would just be in this race for the "publicity". And .. for you to say that about Tom PROVES YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THE HELL TOM IS.

The reason I get so upset about this is because NONE OF YOU OUT OF STATE PEOPLE KNOW WHO THE HELL TOM IS, YET YOU HAVE ALL THESE SMARMY STUPID IGNORANT CHUTZPAH STATEMENTS TO SAY ABOUT HIM.

How ignorant is that!! I don't have the slightest idea who any of your state senators are - and even if they showed up on national TV - what would I know about them - NOTHING!!!

That's why I would never be so rude or presumptious as to tell you whether or not you should vote for or against anybody. And .. I really resent when people do it to me.

[BulletBobCo]

Davis is toast!

[CyberAnt]

Well .. I never said that! I have found it pays to check the little number (you know - the number in the line of words which say [PostReply][PrivateReply]) for the message number that the person replied to (218), from there you can go back to the message before that. From there you can continue until you get a much clearer interpretation of THE WHOLE CONVERSATION.

[EDINVA]

everyone who says Tom McClintock should pull out is forgetting that a good percentage of his supporters would then just stay home which could doom the first question on the ballot. I think Arnold Schwarzennegger can pull it out on his own, but the GOP should not have endorsed anyone in this.

[Carry_Okie]

Schwarzenegger's plan includes regulation of redidential indoor air quality, "to protect the children." It includes a mandate for all governments in the State to replace their entire motorized equipment fleets. It includes use of TMDLs and fines that will socialize water rights to support developers and effectively steal land from agricultural owners. It will burn the Sierra Nevada mountains to a crisp and turn them into a vast and ineradicable weed patch.

Oh but RFKs buddies will make big bucks on the continuing electrical shortage Arnold will maintain by regulatory means, so it's a great plan for them.