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To: Blood of Tyrants

Several Abrams were lost in Iraq from RPG's....not that the unit was holed thru..but several caught fire via engine compartment.

I haven't seen any Koronet damage photos as yet.

One ponders how survivable armor is ..ie to a U.S. Javelin strike..Russian or Euro comparative.

Israels Merkava 4 can fire a guided missile from its gun tube...another Merkava can pick up guidance and guide the missile to target.

In a sense..modern armor has not really faced modern missiles in combat as yet..unless France or Russia slipped a few in to Iraq to see how they performed.

If the heavies are vulnerable...Bradleys..Strykers, LAV's are not likely to fare much better.
sort of a numeric reality..how many missiles fired..how many write offs.

Israel lost a few Mekavas due to mines..have not come accross data as per anti tank missiles fired and write offs.
Palies would crow for sure if a ATGM got a Merk..havent heard anything in last few years.

Merkava 4 is said to have refinements in turret for ATGM's designed to penetrate from above.

One can ponder what type of ATGM's have actually been fired at IDF mech units.

Supposedly..Russia has ATGM.s designed to defeat Blazer reactive armor..well supposedly.

I think you can only expect so much protection from a mech vehicle designed with weight restrictions for airlift to be survivable on a modern battlefield.

If Stryker is more reliable..ie..wheel vs track.
maintenece and multi terrian endurance..then field it.
or stay with tracks..and accept the maintenece reality.

What happens when EMP weapons appear..this is on the horizon to soon.
I image telemetry weapons exist too..ones designed to enter a vehicles computer suite and corrupt its boards.
Every now and then..Electrical warfare options appear in Janes intel briefs..the hint that one day..this form of warfare will visit the battlefield.

80 posted on 09/27/2003 8:01:38 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed
"Several Abrams were lost in Iraq from RPG's....not that the unit was holed thru..but several caught fire via engine compartment."

Do you have a link for this? I don't think that you are lying, but I did not hear about this. I do know that 2 Abrams were destroyed by anti-aircraft fire (direct lay method of engagement). Could it be that the crew of a disabled Abrams tossed some thermite grenades inside, to destroy the Abrams and someone misinterpreted this?

85 posted on 10/02/2003 6:19:16 PM PDT by Voice in your head ("The secret of Happiness is Freedom, and the secret of Freedom, Courage." - Thucydides)
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