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Hitting bottom, however unpleasant, did strip Republicans of any illusions of a quick comeback and steeled party activists' discipline and resolve in the decades since. Moreover, without changing its name, the Republican Party has succeeded in rebranding itself since the mid-1970s. Democrats, by contrast, having arrived at minority status through a series of near misses, can't seem to shake the feeling that their predicament is a mistake. "We wuz robbed," however, may not make the best campaign slogan or form the best foundation for a rebound.

This is exactly why 2004 will be another landslide for the GOP.

1 posted on 09/07/2003 6:24:40 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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GOP/Bush landslide in 2004 ping
2 posted on 09/07/2003 6:25:52 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("Free trade will cause the death of America's moral base." -- Tub Girl)
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To: Texas_Dawg
The Democratic Party bounced back after the Civil War, when its southern Confederate and northern Copperhead wings reunited, and it will bounce back once again.
3 posted on 09/07/2003 6:27:10 PM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: Texas_Dawg
I like the comment about 'talk radio being as much about entertainment as substance' ... as if to imply the liberal hosts had worthwhile 'content'. They stand FOR nothing besides socialism and the increasing power and autonomy of the secular State.

Why would anyone listen to them? (look at NPR's numbers)
6 posted on 09/07/2003 6:31:28 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Texas_Dawg
The liberals have been trying to do talk radio for over a decade, and they keep failing. It only works on NPR, where they don't have to actually get and hold an audience.
8 posted on 09/07/2003 6:33:09 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
muted by the party's own caution about Democratic principles."

What???? The Democrats have principles????

(Oh, yeah. "Win at all costs, no matter what you have to destroy in the process.")

12 posted on 09/07/2003 6:36:35 PM PDT by Eala (None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. - Milton)
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The Dems have bent over backwards to chase away men and get themselves stigmatized as the anti-God party in a nation in which over 90 percent of its citizens believe in God.

It's turning out, too, that most women are strongly pro-life, and as the Republican message starts reaching the blacks most of them will go Pubbie too.

Most importantly, the Dems hammerlock on information has been shattered. Network news and urbane dailies no longer have a monopoly on the media and are in fact dying.

21 posted on 09/07/2003 6:47:31 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Texas_Dawg
Democrats and liberals need to replicate not only the campaign-trail savvy of the Republicans but also the GOP's large network of think tanks

How many think tanks do you need to state that the solution to every "problem" is redistribution of income? Ho much higher can you make state spending?

23 posted on 09/07/2003 6:52:40 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Texas_Dawg
"Democratic Party: On the Ropes?"

"In the Sewer," is a lot more like it.

26 posted on 09/07/2003 7:26:49 PM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: Texas_Dawg
It is not true, as this article states, that it took the GOP a long time to bounce back from its supposed post-Watergate low point. Six years after Nixon's resignation, Republicans elected the most consciously Conservative President of the century, and the first Republican Senate since the mid-1950s. With an occasional backward step, the US has been trending Republican since the Dems most dominant majority in the mid-1960s. Nobody was talking about an "evenly divided" country until recently -- the Dems always had an enormous numerical advantage. The percentage of voters identifying themselves as Democrat is now lower than at any time since the 1920s.

Sometimes we have to reflect on how far we have actually come since the dark days of the Great Society.
28 posted on 09/07/2003 7:30:28 PM PDT by speedy
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To: Texas_Dawg
"Government is dominated by right-wing conservatism. And the media is increasingly dominated by an extreme right-wing minority.

Well, not exactly! If the government were truly dominated by right-wing conservatism, we wouldn't see an honorable, well-qualified judicial candidate such as Miguel Estrada give up in disgust after two years of liberal stonewalling denied him a floor vote and certain confirmation. We wouldn't see an out-of-control budget (I'm not talking about military spending, either) and the specter of prescription drug coverage about to make the situation worse.

As for right-wing media domination--what a crock! Yes, we have Rush and the editors of the Wall Street Journal. They have the NY Times, Boston Globe, Washington Post, LA Times, and nearly every other newspaper from Maine to California, with AP and Reuters feeds that make most local papers read like Pravda.

The democrats are delusional! If they believe the problem is that the media is biased against them, they haven't even begun to assess the paucity of their argument. It's like a guy who is convicted of murder blaming the jury, and there are seven of his relatives on it. Hey dems, read the following--it could actually help:

By and large, the citizens of this country want lower taxes, a strong defense, less immigration (both legal and illegal), more God in public life, fewer abortions, less yapping about the rights that adhere to those of a particular color, gender, sexual preference or country of origin, and more concern for the rights of individuals rather than members of these groups. Do these preferences seem like they might make the platform of the democrat party? The reason your party is floundering is not because the country doesn't hear your message, guys. It's because it does.

29 posted on 09/07/2003 7:46:24 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: Texas_Dawg
In 1861, the Dems sided with the Confederacy, the enemy of America. Today, they are siding with the terrorists.
30 posted on 09/07/2003 8:03:38 PM PDT by Brilliant
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31 posted on 09/07/2003 8:12:46 PM PDT by autoresponder (PETA TERRORISTS .wav file: BRUCE FRIEDRICH: http://tinyurl.com/hjhd)
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To: Texas_Dawg
There are several reasons in my opinion why the democrats have long-term
problems.

First, they are a victim of their success. America in 2003 looks very much like
the realization of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society program; virtually all of the
social ideals the liberals came up with in the 1960s and early 70s have now
become law. It is not just "The democrats don't have any new ideas"; it is
"All of their ideas have already been tried".

Closely related is that their ideas are not popular. It isn't just that
Americans support George W. Bush, or that most of them support and approve
of the Iraqi policy. It is that a majority favour tax reduction. A majority
are opposed to gay marriage. A majority --including a majority of minorities--
favour school voucher programs. A majority are opposed to partial birth
abortion. In short, although the democrats are in deep denial, a sizeable
majority favour Republican ideas and programs to democrat ideas and programs.

The third in my list but perhaps most crucial in importance is the rise of
the alternate media. Democrats have had numerous internal discussions
about the need for a "counter" to Rush Limbaugh or Fox news. Yet they don't
acknowledge the bias shown by ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NPR, PBS, and likely
many other left-leaning media stations. The phenomenon that democrats are
seeing is not the rise of a right-wing media machine; the phenomenon they are
seeing is the fall of the left-wing media machine. Talk radio and internet
rooms have allowed Republicans to organize and publicize their ideas for the
first time in a way that Democrats have been able to do for decades. The
behavoir of democrat Presidents have been examined for the first time with
the same scrutiny formerly reserved for Republican presidents. And the
response -- "Oh, we didn't tell you this at the time, but other Democratic
Presidents were just as bad" -- did not help their cause. Facts inconvenient
to the democrats are now being publicized: middle class Americans (including
married women) are more likely to vote Republican than democrat; the only
way Gore could have won Florida would be to change the election laws after
the election; more people donate to Republican causes than to Democratic
causes; .....

Finally, there is Clinton. Just as Nixon's activities caused several people
to abandon the Republicans, so Clinton's activities caused people to abandon
the democrats. In particular, the democratic party showed that it would
tolerate open perjury as long as the perjurour was "one of us." Clinton
managed to single-handedly discredit the National Organization of Women,
and shattered the illusion that democrats "cared" about women. The same
"win at all costs, the laws be damned" attitude appeared in the Wellstone
funeral, in the Texas Chicken-Ds, in Gore's attempts at election fraud, in
Condit's evasions about Chandra Levy, in the after-deadline candidate switch,
and who-knows-how-many other examples. More than one ethical person has
been so repulsed by the democrats that they have left the party. But in
addition to Clinton's moral failings, his policies have failed as well.
The infantada brought on by Clinton's search for a legacy of mid-east
peace continues. The "vast right-wing conspiracy" is able to remind voters
that Clinton refused Sudan's offer to arrest the mastermind of 9-11. And
the one aspect of his legacy remaining -- "At least the economy was good"
has now been discredited with the massive accounting fraud violations
which occurred under his watch.

I don't think the democrats are "dead". But I do think they are in denial
and have far more significant long-term problems than they are ready to
admit.
33 posted on 09/07/2003 8:27:47 PM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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To: Texas_Dawg
God, where to start, where to start?

The liberals can't win in the long-run because their message is structurally and forever fatally flawed. Liberalsim is the belief that people are stupid and need the elitists, in the guise of government, to guide every little thing in the average person's life. It is the belief that Man is an evil creature and that, absent the checks put in place by the elite, will only do evil.

Liberalism taken to its logical extreme was called the Soviet Union. Liberalism and Capitalism cannot co-exist. To destroy all the good that comes from abundance, allow it to flourish. The great garden and utopia of California today is the flower of liberalism.

The idea that the conservatives have all the money is, of course, crap. Hollywood alone has more money combined than most captians of industry. The difference is that, by and large, the conservatives are willing to part with money to prove the courage of their convictions. Babs Streisand, Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon and their vacuous pronouncementsare about as good as it gets on the left. But actually put their money where their mouth is? No way.
35 posted on 09/07/2003 8:29:23 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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"Democrats, . . . would do well to study the way that conservatives, starting in the 1950s, worked to build a national movement and the way that Republicans plotted their return from political exile after the Watergate scandal.
. . .
Why have liberals so often floundered where conservatives have succeeded in building institutions to bolster their ideas and voices?"

The answer is obvious and not cited in the article (which is a very good one as far as it goes): Their ideas dare not speak their name, refuting American exceptionalism and being anti-capitalist.

The only way we can be diluted to the level of a Canada or co-dependent Euro-state, is if the experiment to allow the wealthy to distribute resources instead of the government is not permitted to continue or if Buchanan's predictions regarding anti-American citizenship come to pass. It could begin next year if rich folks continue to hoard their cash through to a Bush defeat, and will happen with certainty if we continue our immigration policies and fail to assimilate those who become voters.
37 posted on 09/07/2003 9:27:08 PM PDT by dwills
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Ellen Malcolm, president of EMILY's List, which works to elect Democratic women who support abortion rights.

Liberal social groups are funded massively, more so than conservative ones.

The war has brought out the stark diffeences between Republicans and Democrats that have always been there. Liberal Democrats believe American military might to be inherently immoral even in pursuit of national security. Republicans believe it to be inherently useful. The people are on the Republican side.

39 posted on 09/07/2003 9:36:04 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Texas_Dawg
The basic problem the Democrats have is the absence of a theme or a message around which not just the party's core but the general electorate is attracted to. A stream of anti-Bush invective isn't a theme or a message. It may let party activists vent anger but it doesn't address the Democrats' problems of what to say to the country as to what the party stands for. I mean like Ally McBeal used to remind herself, have a "theme song" so you know where you're going. And until the Democratic Party does know where its going, its not going to win elections.
40 posted on 09/07/2003 9:40:08 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Democrats believe that big government works and Republicans do not, and Republicans prove it everytime they get elected'- PJ O'Rourke
43 posted on 09/07/2003 10:04:35 PM PDT by hosepipe
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Any party that can get dead folk to vote is a party to be reckoned with.
51 posted on 09/08/2003 7:06:27 AM PDT by TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa (Foe Hammer!)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Al Gore may have won the popular vote; but, it took the Tv networks tampering in the election to get him there. Absent that, he would have lost the popular vote. So it is a moot point.
54 posted on 09/08/2003 7:46:43 AM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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