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The Litmus Test for American Conservatism (The paloeconservative view of Abe Lincoln.)
Chronicles Magazine ^
| January 2001
| Donald W. Livingston
Posted on 09/06/2003 9:14:08 AM PDT by quidnunc
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To: WhiskeyPapa
yeah, right.
those people were criminals, whose loyalty to the union was not in question, but who had planned terrorist acts against citizens of the state of TX.
sorry, but as usual you're wrong, scalawag.
free dixie,sw
561
posted on
09/15/2003 7:58:09 AM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
To: Non-Sequitur
what a SILLY statement on your part.
the CSA was far less a police state than the USA was in 1861-65. after all we didn't have DEATH CAMPS to abuse, torture & murder innocent civilans & POWs. (i know you think the THOUSANDS of murdered POWs and civilians, like the 92 martyrs of MY family are myth, but the OFFICIAL records speak for themselves.)
free dixie,sw
562
posted on
09/15/2003 8:01:27 AM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
To: Non-Sequitur
the simple answer is that it was REQUIRED by the constitution.
free dixie,sw
563
posted on
09/15/2003 8:02:17 AM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
To: Paul C. Jesup
thank you.
free the south,sw
564
posted on
09/15/2003 8:04:17 AM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
To: SAMWolf
well said.
in point of fact, lincoln couldn't have cared less if the slaves were EVER freed.
he said so himself.
free dixie,sw
565
posted on
09/15/2003 8:05:19 AM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
To: Held_to_Ransom
and your point is????
free dixie,sw
566
posted on
09/15/2003 8:07:05 AM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
To: Ditto
The British tariff on Southern Cotton was 15%? No. The southern tariff on imported cotton manufactures was 15%. I looked up the southern tariff schedule, BTW. It taxed 431 import articles. 12 of those articles were at 25% - the highest rate in the confederate tariff. The remainder were 10% and 15% with an average overall rate of 13.3%. That made the confederate tariff one of the lowest for any nation in the world at the time. It was also lower than the 1857 US tariff, which had been considered the friendliest free-trade tariff in half a century. Here's the link for the data. It's a .pdf so I can't cut and paste, but go to the table on the last page and read the figures on what the south actually imported and how the Confederates set their tariffs. They were every bit as protectionist as the US tariffs of 1857 were.
To: Ditto
Also - your link isn't working.
To: GOPcapitalist
569
posted on
09/15/2003 8:11:16 AM PDT
by
Ditto
( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
To: tpaine
No such thing as a 'left-libertarian';I beg to differ. There are 'left' and 'right' libertarian philosophies that differ greatly. Your problem is your confusion with the use of the terms 'left' and 'right' wrt the major parties.
"The Government exists to preserve the free exercise of our Rights; ergo, individual Rights supercede the wishes of the State."
That is anarchy by definition. Clearly rational people made decisions in which majorities could regulate the behaviour of others. This is why child molesterers are in prison.
Why do you feel the need to deny its validity?
Because it's not true?
How does the above truism threaten your liberty, Gianni?
It doesn't, it's just not the way it works. Whether or not it should work that way is the matter of some debate.
570
posted on
09/15/2003 8:11:48 AM PDT
by
Gianni
To: rightofrush
nope. i'm serious, women & children read the posts on this forum.surely, your vocabulary is not that limited!
VULGARITY & OBSCENITY have NO place on FR.
free dixie,sw
571
posted on
09/15/2003 8:14:25 AM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
To: nolu chan
as the Minister of Propaganda for the damnyankees on FR, N-S will use any source or tactic to try to denigrate dixie & her patriots.
that is FACT.
free dixie,sw
572
posted on
09/15/2003 8:17:06 AM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
To: Held_to_Ransom
And just how do you use this piece of idle humor to explain the 80 million dollar deficit at the time of the Morrill tariff?It does little to explain it, especially when they knew that Morill would decrease revenues. Your repeated attempts to justify it with the deficit only make the situation more confusing.
Of course, the truth of the matter was that most of the 80 million was stolen by the south in one form or another. When you don't produce, you must depend on the kindness of strangers, and if not then you must steal like a thief in the night. How is this stealing better than a balanced budget and the concept of paying one's own way in the world. Do elaborate
Zealotry in action. Can I pull this back on topic by asking why it was that Lincoln refused all attempts to negotiate the debt?
573
posted on
09/15/2003 8:20:15 AM PDT
by
Gianni
To: WhiskeyPapa; Held_to_Ransom
I like the way you think.Receiving the endorsement of the Walt should be a strong indicator that you're barking up the wrong tree.
574
posted on
09/15/2003 8:21:25 AM PDT
by
Gianni
To: Non-Sequitur
it's not nearly as much fun as watching you & the walt brigade twist in the wind, when the LIES, WAR CRIMES & power-hungry, statist politics of lincoln, the GREAT spiller of innocent blood, and his clique of thugs are pointed out to you & your allies here.
that's REALLY fun to watch.
free dixie,sw
575
posted on
09/15/2003 8:21:55 AM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
To: GOPcapitalist
576
posted on
09/15/2003 8:23:48 AM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
To: wgeorge2001
where did you get this rather peculiar notion?
free dixie,sw
577
posted on
09/15/2003 8:24:33 AM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
To: GOPcapitalist
in point of fact, the governor of NC did precisely that.
free dixie,sw
578
posted on
09/15/2003 8:25:35 AM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
To: muir_redwoods
579
posted on
09/15/2003 8:26:50 AM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
To: GOPcapitalist
walt needs a friend or two.
he has, by my count, FEW here on FR.
but then MOST of the forum members are neither scalawags or fools.
free dixie,sw
580
posted on
09/15/2003 8:28:55 AM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
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