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To: wardaddy
This issue is so much more than just a symbolic "rock" in a courthouse. It is based on a principle and on heartfelt rebellion against multiple decades of a force-fed diet espousing anti-religion, anti-morals and anti-nation.

Yes, symbols are vitally important and sometimes they are needed as a rallying call. Whether or not the Commandments stay or are removed, Judge Roy Moore has generated national focus on a definitive moment in our nation's history.

The populace at large is simply sick and tired of having its precious heritage trampled in the dirt. You can stomp truth into the ground 40 feet deep -- but it is still truth.

156 posted on 08/22/2003 3:30:05 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: varina davis
I am in full support of Judge Moore, but heard an interesting statistic on Christian radio yesterday and thought an informal "poll" might be in order.
The quesion is this:

Does your CHURCH have a copy of the 10 Commandments posted?

I must observe that mine does not. A conservative, evangelical, Bible teaching body, I might add.

According to the speaker on the program I was listening to yesterday, only 2% of American churches have a copy up and visible. Does yours?
166 posted on 08/22/2003 3:35:25 PM PDT by Knute
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To: varina davis
"The populace at large is simply sick and tired of having its precious heritage trampled in the dirt."

I believe that the Constitution is also part of this country's precious heritage. The first amendment very clearly gives me the right to worship two, ten, or a hundred deities if I so desire. The first commandment very clearly forbids me to do so. As I see it, these are in conflict, and, given a choice, I will take the Constitution.
205 posted on 08/22/2003 3:53:56 PM PDT by jde1953
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To: varina davis; wardaddy
This issue is so much more than just a symbolic "rock" in a courthouse. It is based on a principle and on heartfelt rebellion against multiple decades of a force-fed diet espousing anti-religion, anti-morals and anti-nation.

Well said. People keep making the point, "It's just a rock, big deal, don't be idolators" and so on. But symbols have meaning, and the meaning of this event is clear. Reminds me of the recent SCOTUS sodomy decision, also symbolic. Only a tiny handful of homosexuals were ever arrested for sodomy anyway, usually public behavior. But to have sodomy protected - legal, authorized by the law behavior - changed the legal scenery, and the homo-pushers knew it.

So with this "rock". The atheist secular-humanist leftists want every last vestige of religion and moral absolutes scraped and scrubbed from every public place, and that oppression is seeping into privately owned companies and such as well.

Recently a friend who workds for US Cellular in a small Northern CA coastal town told me that the Christmas tree that has decorated the store in previous years will be tossed, lest one atheist or other person be offended. I don't even like the custom of Christmas trees, it's originally a pagan custom and has nothing to do with Jseus' birth or message. But this is an example of the gradual destruction of religious freedom of expression and it is serious business.

352 posted on 08/22/2003 4:55:03 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: varina davis
"This issue is so much more than just a symbolic "rock" in a courthouse. It is based on a principle and on heartfelt rebellion against multiple decades of a force-fed diet espousing anti-religion, anti-morals and anti-nation."

I agree. There seems to be two basic views in this country: Atheism and Theism (which has various forms). Neither view is neutral. In fact, they are direct opposites. Both beliefs are religion, as they are both "system of beliefs" (check Webster's definitions).

In the early days of this country, the Judeo-Christain God was clearly favored over other religions. He was acknowledged and referred to in our founding documents. He was honored with public prayer, taught in schools, mentioned on our currency, and the Ten Commandments were engraved on our public buildings. None of these actions were illegal or deemed unconstitutional by those who wrote the constitution, who were still alive at the time. It was their understanding that such actions did not constitute the "establishment of religion".

When the government officially refuses to acknowledge God, and forcibly removes references to God from the schools or public places, it favors Atheism over Theism.

Atheism is not neutral. No religion is neutral.










485 posted on 08/22/2003 6:45:49 PM PDT by keats5
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