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To: eccl1212
I do however have a visceral reaction to hypocrites claiming to speak of God's moral virtues,

Sometimes the best person to seek advice from,(when designing an anti-theft device-for example), are the theives themselves. Muggers, rapists, computer hackers, etc. could all offer valuable insights into various ways of 'protecting' yourself from 'harm'.

Pointing out social and moral decay requires no special degree. We see it all around us. That a large, video gaming personality would like to remain in the spotlight while instructing us on virtue, all-the-while getting paid, irks me, in light of the amounts he's squandered and profitted from, in the name of self-entertainment.

You want to preach to me, then take a vow of poverty. Virtuous acts are not attached to the profit motive unless you can somehow attach virtue to helping a stranded motorist by calling a towtruck and then asking them to pay for the 'minutes used' on your cell phone. This is how I see the man.

166 posted on 07/31/2003 4:53:28 PM PDT by budwiesest (Gladly, the cross-eyed bear.)
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To: budwiesest
"You want to preach to me, then take a vow of poverty. Virtuous acts are not attached to the profit motive unless "you can somehow attach virtue to helping a stranded motorist by calling a towtruck and then asking them to pay for the 'minutes used' on your cell phone. This is how I see the man."

Well Budweisest, you must only be viewing the man thru your Budweiser. Since you probably have never met the man, I'm sure your clairvoyance is surely ethanol powered. The many sources I've read about the man suggests that he would not stoop to such petty avarice.

His book of Virtues came out well into the last decade and I saw not one word about the evils of gambling. The real proof of change will take place over time as we watch him stay out of the casino's. Then he'll write a new chapter regarding avoiding the appearance of evil.


170 posted on 07/31/2003 5:40:14 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: budwiesest
You want to preach to me, then take a vow of poverty.

Those who live a cloistered life, hide themselves away from the rest of the world, and are not tempted like the rest of us. By reducing their exposure to temptation, they remain more virtuous, perhaps. But, that shouldn't necessarily make them more revered. Because the mortals among us who suffer through the tempations, have grown into stronger and more virtuous human beings, because of our sufferings. It is learning the lessons, that strengthens us.

174 posted on 07/31/2003 5:44:39 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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