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To: Im Your Huckleberry
Lee lost to Grant because the North had them outsupplied; it'll happen every time an industrial state goes to war against an agrarian one. Lee was the smart, classy and sober one (and his father was Light Horse Harry Lee, friend of Gen. George Washington...need I say more? [That's a rhetorical question--I'll wait here while you look up rhetorical]).
91 posted on 07/14/2003 11:05:22 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: Pharmboy
Yup. That loss stings don't it?

Grant whipped ya, and he whipped ya by out generaling your Bobby Lee, and that sting is still there, ain't it?

I don't need to look up "rhetorical" but you might want to lookup "rationalize"...

Funny thing...I never felt the need to "demean" Lee in order to elevate Grant. I only feel the need to constantly remind "Unreconstructed Rebs" that they lost, who they lost to, and why they lost to him.

And your argument about northern industrial might is a joke, and a thin argument that's been shredded by historians like Gordon C. Rhea (a southerner, I might add). If all that was needed to destroy Lee was numbers, then explain Fredericksburg and Chancellorsville.

The north had all the numbers and might they needed and outnumbered Lee nearly 3 to 1, the largest numbers the north would bring to bear until 1865.

And Lee beat 'em.

But then Grant shows up, and has fewer numbers (due to the expiration of 3 year enlistments, something Rhea points out but which most historians until modern times have overlooked) and an army that is shedding thousands of men a week, and goes up against Lee and puts him on the defensive and then corners him, effectively removing him from the war.

And the, suddenly, the numbers supposedly make a difference?

Your argument doesn't stand up, and historians like Rhea have shredded it.

But keep going...I'm having fun watching the spin...

92 posted on 07/14/2003 11:12:04 AM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: Pharmboy
I also recommend "North & South" magazine, last month's issue, Volume 6 Number 4. Read the "Top Ten Generals" article. They interview six well known historians, and ask them to list their "top ten" generals of the war.

Guess who comes out number one for all of them?

(though one of them must have been smoking something that day because he includes "Butler" on the list...)

94 posted on 07/14/2003 11:19:42 AM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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