[BlackbirdSST]

I can't ask it any more plainly

This one's for all the DUmmies out here today. You don't have to look any further than the creation of the TSA to see what Freedom's have been lost. Being searched without a warrant by a Federal Agent is in direct violation of the 4th Amd. The 4th has been trashed by the unPatriot Act, and you bushbot's revel in it. This straw man question you Libertarian bashers bring up everytime a thread like this get's posted is easily defeated. It's obvious to anyone who cares to open their eye's, where we're headed. DUmmies don't care, shrub's not getting BJ's, and that's all that matters, right! CWOJackson, I only addressed this to you because I see you still have plenty of insulting trash flowing from your keyboard. Hope you all enjoyed your faux Independence day, with your State sponsered fireworks show's, at your State sanctioned event's. Now that's FREEDOM! Blackbird.

[ArneFufkin]

Your 4th Amendment rights haven't been touched.

Quit whining. You aren't a victim.

[DugwayDuke]

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

The key words are "unreasonable searches". Are you saying that any one should be allowed on a plane with any article they wish to carry? Or, do you think there should be a judge present at every air line counter to issue a warrant for each and every passenger?

"This one's for all the DUmmies out here today."

Your point in referring to long standing Freepers as "DUmmies" is precisely what?

[nopardons]

Go over to the lpers site and stay there, why don't you ? Calling people, who disagree with you and the rest of the tiny minority of purists/more Conservative than thouers, DUmmies and bots, and whatever other childish insults you may imagine, is ridiculous and proves nothing.

During times of war, this nation's elected officals have imposed greater curtailments, than this president; that's the price we pay for others attempts to kill our citizenry/attacks upon us. Libertarians, for all of their blinkered, blind egotism, never, not ever, win the debate; they only think they have. It's obvious, to anyone, with more than 3 working brain cells, that the whingers, whiners, and fanatic fringers are paranoid tinfoilers, who live in some fantasy of their own minds and not in the real world.

Even with all of the supposed freedoms,you think that people had 100+ years ago and that you no longer do, they were less free, than we are.

[CWOJackson]

Nice rambling blackbird but it still doesn't answer the basic question...how the loonie lp thinks it can protect America from terrorist attack with open borders and unrestricted immigration.