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Libertarian Party: Color-Coded Terror Alert System is Useless and Should be Scraped
Libertarian Party press release ^ | July 4, 2003 | George Getz

Posted on 07/04/2003 10:14:58 PM PDT by Commie Basher

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NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY
2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100
Washington DC 20037
World Wide Web: http://www.LP.org
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For release: July 4, 2003
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For additional information:
George Getz, Communications Director
Phone: (202) 333-0008
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Color-coded terror alert system is useless and should be scrapped, Libertarians say.

WASHINGTON, DC -- The national color-coded terror alert system should be scrapped, Libertarians say, because it only alarms the public with warnings that are too vague to be useful.

"Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge risks becoming like the boy who cried wolf with his frequent, unsubstantiated orange alerts," said George Getz, Libertarian Party communications director. "Soon the public might start ignoring him -- and that could be a real disaster."

As the Fourth of July weekend approached, Department of Homeland Security officials declined to say whether they planned to raise the terror alert level from yellow to orange, the second-highest category. Since the system was instituted last fall, the threat has been raised to orange four times, and no attacks have taken place -- raising questions about the reliability of the underlying intelligence data.

One example: In February, Americans stockpiled food and water and rushed out to buy duct tape and plastic sheeting to seal their homes after the government warned about the risk of a chemical or biological attack.

At the time, Ridge claimed the intelligence reports were based on "multiple sources, obviously credible and corroborated." But days later he quietly canceled the alert after being forced to admit that the reports were "not as accurate as we thought."

An unreliable terror alert system may be worse than none at all -- which is why the program should be dismantled, Libertarians say.

"Telling a nation still reeling from the September 11 terrorist attacks to be on alert for another horrific attack -- without telling them when, where, or how it might occur -- is nothing more than scaremongering," Getz said. "In fact, every orange alert that is issued based on flimsy evidence actually endangers the nation by making Americans more likely to ignore future warnings."

The federal system also forces local police departments to squander tax money on unnecessary security precautions, he added.

"The U.S. Conference of Mayors estimates that cities spent $2.6 billion on additional security costs since the September 11 attacks, much of it related to 'code orange' overtime costs for police and other emergency personnel," Getz said. "These warnings actually made America less safe, because every dollar spent on imaginary threats is a dollar that can't be spent arresting an actual murderer, robber or rapist."

The solution is to replace the gimmicky color-coded system with one based on law enforcement needs rather than political posturing, he said.

"If the federal government obtains a specific, credible threat, it should share it immediately with local law enforcement officials and let them take the appropriate steps to warn and protect the public," he said. "But in the absence of solid information, it should cut the political chatter and refrain from alarming 280 million Americans with a vague, generalized terror alert."

Libertarians believe that preventing another terrorist attack is one of the most important functions of the federal government -- and that's why Americans should insist that it's done right, he said.

"This Fourth of July, let's declare our independence from unnecessary fear by pulling the plug on this counterproductive terror-alert system," he said.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; homelandsecurity; libertarianparty; libertarians; waronterror
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To: cinFLA
"libertarianism" is NOT the LP.

Amen!

141 posted on 07/05/2003 1:39:32 PM PDT by jmc813
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To: BlackbirdSST
Go over to the lpers site and stay there, why don't you ? Calling people, who disagree with you and the rest of the tiny minority of purists/more Conservative than thouers, DUmmies and bots, and whatever other childish insults you may imagine, is ridiculous and proves nothing.

During times of war, this nation's elected officals have imposed greater curtailments, than this president; that's the price we pay for others attempts to kill our citizenry/attacks upon us. Libertarians, for all of their blinkered, blind egotism, never, not ever, win the debate; they only think they have. It's obvious, to anyone, with more than 3 working brain cells, that the whingers, whiners, and fanatic fringers are paranoid tinfoilers, who live in some fantasy of their own minds and not in the real world.

Even with all of the supposed freedoms,you think that people had 100+ years ago and that you no longer do, they were less free, than we are.

142 posted on 07/05/2003 1:49:41 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Kevin Curry
Kevin, a transaction of $10,000 or more having to be reported, has been on the books for decades prior to the 9/11 attacks. You're absolutely, 100% dead wrong AND innacurate about this.
143 posted on 07/05/2003 1:59:21 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ArneFufkin
If I were FBI, I'd monitor your computing, break down your door and throw you in jail forever

Lucky for me that you're just a cheerleader for the police state (useful idiot)

144 posted on 07/05/2003 2:10:11 PM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE
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To: KDD
You weren't the person asked the query, on this thread. I haven't asked YOU the query either and haven't seen your stab at answering it. You still haven't.

You and your tiny, but oh so vocal horde, here, assume that childish insults, Libertarain " code words " , and ill thoughout ramblings suffice, as refutations; they don't. Come on, where are the old " chains " and other such catch phares and words, so beloved by your ilk ? LOL The frenzied, kneepad bedecked Commies of yore, were so much better at this, dear. You're but a pale shadow of them.

I've been a Republican for far longer than you, I've avidly worked on and contributed to GOP campaigns for more decades than you have and I know/understand politics far better than you do. Me...a " Liberal " ? That's pathetic, silly, and untrue. OTOH, You and the other fringers, who say they won't work for/vote for President Bush's re-election, are the REAL Liberal aiders and abettors.

Having known, PERSONALLY many politicians all of my life, I don't " worship " any of them, nor do I see them as anything other than human beings; some okay, some not. I also know what is and is NOT possible for any of them to do. Obviously, you don't. You still haven't progressed to adulthood; no matter what your physical age is; but still see reality through fairy tale, mythological lenses. Elsewise, how on earth could you actually believe the drivel you've posted about the American people finally embracing Conservative positions, when the Dems take over ? They and we lived through 8 long, weary, horrid years of the Clintons and they saw N-O-T-H-I-N-G wrong.

145 posted on 07/05/2003 2:12:10 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Commie Basher
Kafkaesque ? Have you read Kafka lately ? Do you imagine that you understand him and what you are alluding to ? Do you actually know of any time period, in this nation, when everything was done perfectly and to the letter of the law ? There is NO such a time.

Your nic is an oxympron, dear, you don't even understand who is a Commie, nor what Communism is; you imagine you know only. Kafka knew; you don't.

146 posted on 07/05/2003 2:20:56 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: poet
Oh goodness gracious, a little boy,, who imagines that women don't know nor understand things nearly as well as a male. ROTFLMSO

FYI ... not all women are emotional, ill educated, uninformed, irrational,little girls who are easily fooled, conned, or inferior to men. You should know better, but alas, you don't.

You complain and whinge about taxes, but when confronted by facts, retreat into fairyland, with " it's just a matter of time b4 other tax increases .... ".State and local governments impose taxes too and those are the ones you've decided to claim are the President's responsibilty. It is to laugh. You can't even stay on topic !

No law prevents any crime ? Really ? And where is the proof of that ? So, should we just do away with ALL laws then ? Welcome to anarchy and life a la " LORD OF THE FLIES "! The FFs most assuredly did NOT agree with your assessment of things. :-)

The laws and rules, put into place during WW II and to some extent, during WW I, had NO experation date either and they were , for the most part, recinded after those wars.

You may not aprove of the farm subsidies ( neither do I ) , but the consequences of NOT signing that Bill, would far outstrip what signing the Bill has done. You just don't get it. Eveery president has to pick his fights and weigh the outcomes. Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh.

There is NO way that we could, using the existing manpower of the National Gaurd, impliment the closing/watching over the FOUR borders of this country and the airports;NONE ! What you hubrisly suggest, is codswallop, based on nothing factual. Daydreams, armchair solutions, without a shred of possibility; not to mention the fact, that American citizens would be under even MORE, not less scrutiny, which, to you and your kind, is an anathema.

147 posted on 07/05/2003 2:37:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ahadams2
Is this just another knee-jerk reaction against Libertarians or do you really believe the the color-code system is useful? What has it meant in your life? Do you really pay attention to it?
148 posted on 07/05/2003 2:39:03 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: dljordan
I think the alert system has some benefits, but that perspective comes from having spent some time working in military intelligence (nothing they'd make a movie about - I drove a desk). I understand the problems of intelligence analysis, and issuing warnings of any sort. The problem here (with the whole 'homeland security' ball of wax) is that the more successful DHS is in preventing the terrorists from succeeding, the more likely it is that folks on the outside will see valid warnings either as just a ruse to draw attention to the department, or something more sinister, along the lines of manipulating popular opinion.

The real alternative is not simply eliminating the alert system, but in conjunction with that elimination being ready to suck it up when the terrorists do finally manage to get in a lucky shot...something I seriously doubt even the libertarians are willing to do, and which I am relatively certain the vast majority of Americans are NOT prepared to accept.
149 posted on 07/05/2003 7:48:45 PM PDT by ahadams2 (alright, let's make that I generally avoid responding to libertarians)
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To: nopardons
Ok mom, if you say so.
150 posted on 07/05/2003 8:07:15 PM PDT by poet
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To: poet
I'm not your mother , but I say so; so there ! :-)
151 posted on 07/05/2003 8:21:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DugwayDuke
Your point in referring to long standing Freepers as "DUmmies" is precisely what?

You mean the long standing Liberals here at FR? Would you prefer NeoConmen? Spare me son. Blackbird.

152 posted on 07/06/2003 12:26:54 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: BlackbirdSST
Only insults ? I see, that's all you're capable of.

And the use of NeoConmen isn't clever either.

153 posted on 07/06/2003 12:28:52 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Only insults ? I see, that's all you're capable of.

Coming from one of the most insulting posters on FR, I'll wear that as a badge of honor! Thanks, Blackbird.

154 posted on 07/06/2003 1:57:20 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: nopardons
It's obvious, to anyone, with more than 3 working brain cells, that the whingers, whiners, and fanatic fringers are paranoid tinfoilers, who live in some fantasy of their own minds and not in the real world.

Sounds like the song of "moderates" everywhere. Every time a politico compromises principles, he speaks of "realism" and "pragmatism" and "the need to compromise." I'm no Objectivist, but statements like the above remind me of those wishy washy Randian characters who were always explaining the need to cave in to yet another socialist, statist program.

155 posted on 07/06/2003 2:34:25 AM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: BlackbirdSST
Nice rambling blackbird but it still doesn't answer the basic question...how the loonie lp thinks it can protect America from terrorist attack with open borders and unrestricted immigration.
156 posted on 07/06/2003 9:34:14 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: jmc813
How's that old phrase go, with friends like them who needs enemies?
157 posted on 07/06/2003 9:37:25 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Commie Basher
Bush took out Saddam so terrorism is over. We don't need no 'steenkin' alert system unless, perhaps, the war we won created more terrorists.
158 posted on 07/06/2003 9:45:44 AM PDT by ex-snook (Who recovers in a 'jobless recovery'?)
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To: Commie Basher
Well, that's consistent with their philosophy of open borders, unfettered immigration and and turning the other cheek while jihadists kill Americans. No warnings are required in that world because it becomes a daily occurence.

Consistently stupid.

159 posted on 07/06/2003 9:52:29 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Commie Basher
Oh, wow. National Security Advice from the Libertarian Party.

Let's file this under the most useless news item of the day.
160 posted on 07/06/2003 10:01:27 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat (Help us elect Republicans in Kentucky! Click on my name for links to all the 2003 candidates!)
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