[TheSpottedOwl]

As with anything unpleasant, there is no perfect solution. You brought up an important point about father's rights; fathers need to be informed about the pregnancy, and to be involved with the decision. I've read stories about how men found out too late that they had fathered a child, and they couldn't secure visitation rights, or even see their child.

A lot of things need to be changed in the adoption industry.

[ladysusan]

I've read stories about how men found out too late that they had fathered a child, and they couldn't secure visitation rights, or even see their child.

Have you read about the horrors visited upon women by adoption? Do you know about the fallout in families that lose children? A lot does need to change, and, imo, it is up to the moral people of the world to do what they can to change it.

It has been a pleasure exchanging ideas with you.