Posted on 06/29/2003 11:26:04 AM PDT by Polycarp
Living with laws that reflect Christian morals and values is infinitely different than living in a theocracy, where the rulers are unelected tyrant clerics and heirarchical leaders within a particular religion. America did just fine, thank you, for nearly 200 years, living under our Constitution and in basic accordance with sound Christian values. It wasn't until the 1960's that Christian norms, morals and values began to get overthrown and undermined by the Courts. Abolishing school prayer, legalizing abortion, granting 'minority status' and special rights to sexual perverts, allowing for divorce-on-a-whim, and the plethora of other illogical, anti-Christian sewage that became case law through the Courts. The way I see it, either Christians unite and take back what God gave us by voting out the liberals and phoney "conservatives", or else get used to the rancid stench of perversion that is rapidly permeating our society.
That needs to be removed immediately!!!
Seperation of Church and State!!!
They're just gonna do it anyway. Yhe laws don't prevent them from engaging in the act.
The guards in jail sell contraband pot so they can still get high in prison.
”The proscription of sodomy in the English tradition began in 1533 when King Henry VIII adopted contemporary church doctrine into a system of laws at the time of the English withdrawal from the Catholic Church. Sodomy became both a sin and a crime, since ecclesiastical law recognizes no distinction between the concepts of "sin" and "crime." Sodomy included any form of non-procreative acts including masturbation, oral and anal sex.
”...stated by the Kansas Supreme Court in a 1925 sodomy case, sum up the historical attitude of the Anglo-American legal system toward non-procreative eroticism. The psychological discomfort of repressed or moralistic individuals from centuries before created a jurisprudence relegating the enjoyment of non-procreative physical intimacy to the status of criminality. Those forefathers’ attitudes control our legal system today. When the issue of the constitutionality of laws outlawing consensual sodomy was brought before the United States Supreme Court in 1986, nearly 200 years after the adoption of the Bill of Rights, Justice Byron White’s opinion upholding the laws referred to "the laws of the many States that still make such conduct illegal and have done so for a very long time."1 In addition, criminal penalties for sodomy "have ancient roots."2 Sodomy was a crime at common law.3
My Father, dead some 25 years, must be rolling over in his grave at the SCOTUS’s decision. However where that sainted man never lost his innocence, his children though taught better, lost theirs in their young adulthoods with Hollywood scandals; lewd stories in news papers and in books and livelier communication among nations and cultures. His grandchildren never had a chance to experience the softness of simplicity, trustfulness and naïveté of just being a good citizen knowing right from wrong. Puerility has been denied them through their schools, churches, all guilty of social engineering 'to make the world a better place'. Today parents are striving to take back some of the lost innocence and lost education by home schooling, protecting their young from an ever increasingly tasteless and immoral world and a government that panders for votes and money from special interests outside the moral teachings.
Be that as it is, the states that had the Sodomy Laws on their books and did nothing in the recent past to act upon that law; the law has become innocuous as should be removed and perhaps re-written to make passing on AIDS and other diseases brought about by same sex partners, a crime against society and punishable under new laws designed to bring at least a modicum of morality. We can thank Bill Clinton’s well-publicized sexual conduct and his pandering for votes for the ‘90s plunge into true Sodom & Gomorrah for our young people to emulate.
Place the blame on liberal thinking, teaching, government, political correctness and a general apathy to stop pornography, adulation of skimpy clothes in inappropriate places and a dozen other things that come to mind - BUT don't place the blame on the GOP - the SCOUSA merely did their job; if anyone doesn't like it, then you should have paid attention long before this.
There won't be. As long as there is a terrorist menace, Americans are not going to turn the executive branch over to a bunch who can't get anything done in Congress.
Get off the soap box. How many politicians promise one thing, get elected, and then deliver something completely different? Such as Bill Clinton, who promised to make abortion, "safe, legal, and "rare". Well that scumbag had the chance to sign legislation making partial birth aborition illegal, but he vetoed it. So much for the "rare" part of his pledge. Nixon promised "peace with honor" and gave us peace with humiliation. George Bush senior talked incessantly of nominating a conservative Supreme Court Justice, and gave us David Souter, (barf). These are only a few examples of how we all get the shaft by the politicians, even when we do vote them out. They just get replaced by other snakes.
Unrelated assault is probably another gay man murdered him, or a boy prostitute.
They knew O'Connor would go for this. That's why they brought it up now.
It was the job of the Texas legislature to dump the law that most people seemed to believe was "dumb" but few were willing to prove that belief by trying to pass a bill to decriminalize it.
Let's get real!
This old song and dance is getting old.
We staunch Conservatives who have been betrayed by George Bush are getting tired of the fear platitudes coming from the GOP.
In truth, there is not a great deal of difference in the two major political parties, and until vast numbers of Republicans begin to break ranks and look for something better, nothing will change.
There are 7 justices that were appointed by Republicans of those 4 voted for it which gives a 57% for by Republican appointees.
There are 2 justices (Ginsburg and Breyer) which voted for it which gives 100% of Democrat appointees for it.
Does anyone seriously believe that the Republicans would score worse in this area than the Democrats. The Democrats have openly courted the gay vote since at least the 70's. Al Gore as VP openly applauded Ellen Degenerous first openly primetime Gay show. There is just no comparison on the subject.
Strong marriage practices have always benefitted society, Christian and otherwise. What does it benefit any civilized culture to have men and women running around procreating with a partner, dumping them, and running around to another partner, and another? It only fosters jealousy, lust, resentment, and a horrible instability in the family, the villiage, and the nation.
Chuck has sounded like a RINO to me in some interviews.
There was a lengthy interview with him on KSEV on the Mike Richards' show that I only got to hear a few minutes of. I was riding around with my dad and he didn't want to listen to all the graphic details of 2 men engaged in anal sodomy so he changed the station.
Maybe someone could point me to a transcript of Chuck's lengthy discussion of the case.
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Every four years without fail, the Republican Establishment warns its rank and file never to vote for a third party candidate, lest we elect a Democrat by default by "giving him the election".
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Every four years without fail, Christians are told that third party candidates cannot win, and that a vote for a third party candidate is somehow a vote for the Democrat.
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Every four years without fail, Christians are bamboozled into believing that their beloved Republican Party will restore this nation to its Christian heritage.
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Every four years without fail, we are told that only a Republican can appoint a conservative Justice to the high bench so that liberalism can be stopped cold.
Check. And what do we get for it? A more liberal, larger government. And yet this past election the mantra 'we have to win back the Senate' was used. As if it mattered. And the Republican party will continue this move to the left to gain those extra votes until they realize that Christians will stand on their principles and vote for a third party. When is it going to be enough? When will we cast that all important vote for yet another power hungry, gun grabbing nanny CINO with a R beside their name that we begin the return to a Federal Constitutional Republic?
The story of how this case came to be does not get told in the press. Any time you hear about doors being busted down, you are in for the liberal spin.
Some articles have even claimed that the "neighbor" who called was an evil homophobe. Some gaypress articles even got his name wrong.
No one has mentioned that the caller is now dead. Seems odd to me, such a "front page" news story and yet the particulars never see print.
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