Pharaoh's chariots found in the Red Sea? ( Holy Moses! )

World Net Daily ^ | June 21, 2003 | Joe Kovacs

[sonofron]

the demensions of the fossilized boat on mt ararat are the same as those given in the old testement for noah's arc, given error for the decomposition of the boat.

[John H K]

What "gargantuan" evidence? Evolution is and always has been a theory.

Oh, I don't know, the tens of thousands of fossils with clear transitions from species to species in universities and colleges all over the world?

And I suggest you look up the definition of "theory" and "hypothesis" as used in science.

The general public commonly thinks of theories the way scientists think of hypotheses.

[CyberAnt]

I believe GOD is going to continue this documented "leaking" of information which confirms the Bible.

[CyberAnt]

Exactly!

[John H K]

the demensions of the fossilized boat on mt ararat

Slight problem; there's no "fossilized boat" on Mt. Ararat.

[Dr Warmoose]

Let me preface this with the admission that I seriously doubt that they will find chariot wheels, considering sediment and coral deposits over thousands of years, and the depths of the water on each side of the land bridge crossing the Gulf of Aqaba, also there is only limited TBN fame not the usual Scientific American type that would occur if some strange fossil was found, there is no reason why the "accredited" researchers would care to find any evidence of the Egyptian army. Be that as it may, the geography and the Biblical record do indicate that the Thomas Nelson maps are wrong. I have seen photos of Jabel el Lawz and it indeed has a scorched pinnacle on this tall mountain. There is also the famed rock that split and water flowed forth. It looks wierd because in the dry Saudi desert this tall split rock and the immediate area around it differs remarkably from all of the other rocks because it has rounded edges typically found in rocks on the bottom of fast moving streams.

Now for the Smackdown

A Swedish scientist who believes the Red Sea was split says while Humphreys is correct about the Aqaba crossing, there are no natural, scientific explanations for the parting miracle described in Scripture.

You are no different that the Swedish "scientist" in that your personal biases limit you from considering that a "miracle" is not a freak natural phenomina but is divine intervention in the natural order.

...these type of people continue to ignore the reality of evolution even with the gargantuan quantity of evidence supporting it.

This is an arrogant and insulting statement that is hurling elephants. Here you can't possibly accept anything that doesn't have a natural explanation, but you will instantly believe in matter out of nothing, a series of uncaused causes, impossible odds, information out of nothing, abiogenesis, and despite the "gargantuan quantity of evidence" there still is no "missing link", or the required "transitional fossils" for the support of macro-evolution. Why do you think many have abandoned Darwin to pick up on PE and other God hating theories?

If you hate the idea of God and you dislike Christians so much that you must insult them even on an interesting and objective article such as this, should we conclude that your faith in the god of Chance is harder for you to believe and you find solace in attacking random strangers to you who may be right?"

2 Peter 3:3-6 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished...

Here nearly two thousand years ago, a simple fisherman already predicted those who would scoff at Christians, believe in the unsubstantiated hypothesis of uniformitarianism, will deliberately exclude from any consideration Divine Intervention, and come up with bogus ideas of origins...

You may wish to believe the paid liars in the school house. But just because you are easily persuaded to believe the lie doesn't mean that others should be forced to be duped in the same dreck. Let them choose their own. The theory of evolution gave us eugenics a system of subjective morality that leans heavily towards destructive perversion, devaluing of life, and worship of self and the god of Materialism. Evolution gives license to communism and tyranny. Exactly what kind of evil comes forth from believing that an Egyptian chariot wheel may be in the Gulf of Aqaba?

[CyberAnt]

The trouble with your "theory" - you DEMAND that others believe the same as you.

Sorry ... I believe the Bible! You don't have to. I don't give a rip!! Go back over to your evolution threads and spout your belief - Christians do not believe your theory and you're wasting your breath on us.

[DannyTN]

You would think that we would be as skeptical about supernatural biblical claims as we are about evolutionary claims.

Unless, that is, we really do know the Lord. And then all claims that appear to line up with what we know about Him, would get less scrutiny. And all claims that appear to contradict what we know about Him, would get lot's of scrutiny.

And then of course there is the credibility issue. Is the bible credible in it's other claims. Yeah pretty much Have evolutionists been credible in all of their claims. Not hardly.

[dark_lord]

???

Are you replying to the right person? Which "theory" is this that you assert is mine and that I am DEMANDing (your word) that others believe the same as me?

[LiteKeeper]

SPOTREP

[Dog Gone]

Exactly what kind of evil comes forth from believing that an Egyptian chariot wheel may be in the Gulf of Aqaba?

None, although nearly all of the artifacts on the ocean floor are the result of shipwrecks.

I find discussion of the Exodus fascinating, mainly because I don't know what to make of it.

Biblical scholars and Egyptologists have searched in vain for any evidence that the Exodus occurred or that Jews were even in Egypt at that time. There is nothing which even begins to confirm the biblical story in any Egyptian writing, artifact, or anything else.

That is not proof that the Exodus is the equivalent of an urban legend, but it does make you wonder.

[Focault's Pendulum]

Slight problem; there's no "fossilized boat" on Mt. Ararat.

Hey! Hey! Hey! Stop saying that! I'm currently negotiating land rights for a fast food franchise to entice the tourist trade. Every time you order....you get two of everything.

The Kid's Meals include a fossilized toothpick.

[farmfriend]

Just for fun.

[whereasandsoforth]

What "gargantuan" evidence? Evolution is and always has been a theory.

"Oh, I don't know, the tens of thousands of fossils with clear transitions from species to species in universities and colleges all over the world?"

Really? One species to another? How fascinating, if it were true in the true sense. No species has ever morphed into a completely different order. Man didn't evolve from apes. If that were true, all apes would be something else by now.

"And I suggest you look up the definition of "theory" and "hypothesis" as used in science."

I don't have to look it up. I have been using the english language for years. True to form, a "hypothesis" is merely and unproved theory. Maybe those terms used in science need to be more honest.

"The general public commonly thinks of theories the way scientists think of hypotheses."

This gives me hope for the common public.

[Prodigal Son]

None, although nearly all of the artifacts on the ocean floor are the result of shipwrecks.

That was the first thing that came into my head. If he found a man made artifact in the sea it probably was either washed or thrown off a ship or it went down with one.

[yankeedame]

Man didn't evolve from apes. If that were true, all apes would be something else by now.

With all due respect, metaphorically speaking evolution is a bush, not a ladder. Apes don't evolve into men- though I have met some men that make me wonder about that.

[Southack]

"Oh, I don't know, the tens of thousands of fossils with clear transitions from species to species in universities and colleges all over the world?"

You can go to any junkyard and dig up the fossil-equivilents of species after species of automobiles, too, but that doesn't mean that cars evolved themselves from one model to the next.

The only theory that accurately explains different automobile model "fossils" is that of Intelligent Intervention, as in, Man made the models different, even though some of the "transitions" between models are occassionaly very subtle.

[fso301]

A couple of problems here.

1.) The bible states after their destruction, the Egyptian equipment was caused to be delivered up from the sea thereby arming the Israelites.

2.)Given the poor condition of wood and iron recovered from sunken 300-400 year old Spanish wrecks near Florida, what would the condition be of wooden chariot parts submerged for thousands of years in warm relatively shallow water?

[UnklGene]

I'm on you side, Dr.. I was just the poster today!

[AmericaUnited]

A huge difference between the "theory of evolution" and the Bible is that is that The Bible keeps getting validated, year after year, while evolution keeps getting invalidated, causing it's followers to come up with more absurd explainations of how it could have happened.

You evo's show incredible faith. I'm envious.