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Pharaoh's chariots found in the Red Sea? ( Holy Moses! )
World Net Daily ^ | June 21, 2003 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 06/21/2003 10:52:07 AM PDT by UnklGene

MUCH ABOUT HISTORY Pharaoh's chariots found in Red Sea? 'Physical evidence' of ancient Exodus prompting new look at Old Testament

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: June 21, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Joe Kovacs © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

"And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided." (Exodus 14:21)

One of the most famous stories of the Bible is God's parting of the Red Sea to save the Israelites from the Egyptian army and the subsequent drowning of soldiers and horses in hot pursuit.

But is there evidence that such an event did in fact happen – and if so, precisely where did it take place?

The issue is surfacing some 3,500 years after the event is said to have taken place with reports of Egyptian chariot wheels found in the Red Sea, photographs to document it and new books by scientists that could lead to a whole remapping of the Exodus route and a fresh look at ancient biblical accounts.

Wheel of fortune

Is this a chariot wheel that chased Moses? (CovenantKeepers.co.uk)

"I am 99.9 percent sure I picked up a chariot wheel," Peter Elmer tells WorldNetDaily after two diving trips to the Gulf of Aqaba branch of the sea. "It was covered in coral."

The 38-year-old forklift mechanic from Keynsham, England, traveled to the region with his brother, Mark, after being inspired by videos of explorers Ron Wyatt and Jonathan Gray, who have documented artifacts that in at least one case authorities have confirmed to be a chariot wheel dating to the time of the Exodus.

"I believe I actually sat in an ancient chariot cab," Elmer said, referring to his time exploring a submerged item in what he describes as an underwater scrapyard. "Without question, it is most definitely the remains of the Egyptian army."

But despite all of Elmer's excitement, others who have been to the same location are not so sure what is being viewed underwater are the remnants of the great chase and urge extreme caution regarding the unsubstantiated claims.

"All kinds of people are finding coral and calling it chariot parts," says Richard Rives, president of Wyatt Archaeological Research in Tennessee. "It's most likely coral covered with coral. ... Opportunists are combining false things with the true things that are found. These people are making it up as they go to be TV stars."

Rives was a longtime partner of Ron Wyatt, an anesthetist and amateur archaeologist who died of cancer in 1999. Before passing away, Wyatt devoted years searching for and documenting physical evidence for events mentioned in the Bible. In addition to chariot wheels, Wyatt claimed to have found Noah's Ark on the mountain next to Ararat in Turkey, the "true" Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia and the Ark of the Covenant with the Ten Commandments near the site of Jesus Christ's crucifixion.

Submerged 'land bridge' (Wyatt Archaeological Research)

Among those who accompanied Wyatt on many of his excursions is his wife, Mary Nell. She's concerned about over-exuberance regarding new claims, but the Spring Hill, Tenn., woman tells WorldNetDaily she's "convinced" there are chariot parts located on a subsurface "land bridge" connecting Egypt to Saudi Arabia through the Gulf of Aqaba.

She cites Ron's discovery of a wheel hub that he brought to the surface in the late 1970s as proof.

The hub had the remains of eight spokes radiating outward and was examined by Nassif Mohammed Hassan, director of Antiquities in Cairo. Hassan declared it to be from the 18th Dynasty of ancient Egypt, explaining the eight-spoked wheel was used only during that dynasty around 1400 B.C.

Curiously, no one can account for the precise whereabouts of that eight-spoked wheel today, though Hassan is on videotape stating his conclusion regarding authenticity.

When Mary Nell went diving with Ron, she says it was very easy to assume (wrongly) that every item on the flat bottom had historical significance.

"[At first] I thought everything was a chariot wheel!" Mrs. Wyatt exclaimed, noting how difficult it is for the untrained eye to distinguish an artifact from a piece of coral. "I'm just trying to be cautious about over-identifying too much. ... It is God's truth, and we can't hype it up. We can't add to it."

However, she notes a big problem for explorers and scientists is that the Egyptian government no longer allows items to be removed from the protected region. Thus, someone claiming to find an artifact will have a hard – if not impossible – time verifying its authenticity, a classic catch-22.

The watery grave

"And the waters returned, and covered the chariots, and the horsemen, and all the host of Pharaoh that came into the sea after them; there remained not so much as one of them." (Exodus 14:28)

The Bible account makes it clear that once the Israelites had marched through the parted sea on dry ground, that the waters rushed back to completely engulf the doomed army of ancient Egypt.

With that in mind, many of the items being seen in the Gulf of Aqaba have been photographed by divers for comparison to the Exodus story.

(Wyatt Archaeological Research)

One of the most spectacular items is what appears to be a wheel with metal exposed. Mary Nell says the wheel is covered with a gold veneer, to which coral has difficulty attaching. She says the gold wheel is still there, wedged so tightly in the bottom that it feels like it's been cemented in.

Many other photographs show formations in a circular pattern with projections that could be spokes, but those items remain at the bottom and have not been authenticated.

Another issue is the route of the Exodus, and which body of water the Israelites crossed. Many travel maps and Bibles indicate a crossing point in the Gulf of Suez, the western branch of the Red Sea. But those may have to be updated if the Aqaba location is confirmed as the true location for the miraculous event.

"The truth is, no one really knows where the crossing of the Red Sea took place," says Carl Rasmussen, a biblical geographer and professor of Old Testament at Bethel College in St. Paul, Minn.

Rasmussen compiled the "Zondervan NIV Atlas of the Bible" and personally thinks the crossing took place somewhere along what is now the Suez Canal.

Yellow highlights possible spot of Mount Sinai east of Red Sea crossing in Gulf of Aqaba (Wyatt Archaeological Research)

Some scientists from Europe say the current maps are wrong, and the Wyatts are right – that the crossing began at the Nuweiba beachhead, went through the Gulf of Aqaba, and then into what is now Saudi Arabia where they claim the "true" Mount Sinai is located.

For years, scholars have speculated as to the location of the actual Mount Sinai where Moses received the Ten Commandments from God. At least 13 sites have actually been claimed on the Sinai peninsula as being the correct spot.

But Ron Wyatt believed it was in Arabia, even referenced as "mount Sinai in Arabia" by the Apostle Paul in Galatians 4:25.

So he and his sons made their way to "Jebel el Lawz," the mountain of the Law, which is known by the locals as "Jebel Musa" – Moses' mountain.

Unfortunately for the Wyatts, they were arrested and held in prison. His wife says someone had phoned embassy authorities for the Muslim country, claiming that Ron was spying for Israel. They were released after spending 78 days behind bars.

Rasmussen doesn't agree with the Arabian Mount Sinai theory.

"I believe the strongest candidate is Jebel Sin Bisher," he told WorldNetDaily. "The sites in Saudi Arabia have very, very weak scriptural backing, in spite of the hype."

Now, a new book by Cambridge University physicist Colin Humphreys titled "The Miracles of Exodus" supports not only the claim for an Aqaba crossing, but also the location of Mount Sinai in Arabia.

"If my book is correct, and I believe the evidence is very strong," says Humphreys, "then world maps will need to be redrawn to relocate Mount Sinai. History books, travel guides and biblical commentaries will need to be rewritten."

Throughout his work, Humphreys provides scientific explanations to corroborate the accounts of the Old Testament.

"'The waters piled up, the surging waters stood firm like a wall,' is a remarkable description of what the mathematics reveals to be the case for water pushed back by a very strong wind," he writes.

"What I have found is that the events of the Exodus are even more dramatic than is generally believed," Humphreys said. "The Exodus of the ancient Israelites from Egypt really is one of the greatest true stories ever told."

A Swedish scientist who believes the Red Sea was split says while Humphreys is correct about the Aqaba crossing, there are no natural, scientific explanations for the parting miracle described in Scripture.

Walls of water as depicted in 'The Ten Commandments' (Paramount Pictures)

"The wind did not separate the water," says Lennart Moller of the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm. "No person could be in that wind and survive. ... If God has created all the Earth, it's no problem for Him to separate the water for a while."

Speaking to WorldNetDaily from the isle of Gotland in the Baltic Sea, Moller, the author of "The Exodus Case," says the key in finding the correct route of the Israelites is to understand that the Hebrew reference to "yum suph" does not mean "sea of reeds" as many scholars have claimed.

Moller says it refers specifically to the Gulf of Aqaba, and while he's not formally affiliated with the Wyatts, he agrees with them that a host of other evidence can be found on the Arabian side of the water, including remains of the golden calf, pillars, altars and the even the rock the Bible says Moses split to bring forth water for the Israelites.

Regarding the items found beneath the waters, Moller believes there are remnants not only of chariots and wheels, but also human and animal skeletons.

"There was a disaster [there] a long time ago," he said. "Whatever that is, it's open to interpretation."

He also notes that the downward and upward slope of the Aqaba crossing path actually falls within current U.S. standards for handicapped ramps.

And while Mary Nell Wyatt warns overstating the claims by divers and authors could do more harm than good, she does believe there's a reason why her husband was led to discover what Ron called "God's attention-getters."

"God preserved all these evidences," she said, "[otherwise] there would have been nothing left. ... God has been lost today. Even Christians still can't believe this all happened. ... We need to pray for the Lord to help us get people to see it."

Back in England, Peter Elmer says people have mockingly asked "Why should a forklift mechanic from Keynsham be able to go to the same place Moses was?"

He takes the criticism in stride, pointing out "Jesus used fishermen, tax collectors and publicans. Why not a forklift mechanic?"


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ancienthistory; artifacts; catastrophism; egypt; exodus; fraud; godsgravesglyphs; redsea; ronwyatt; sinai
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1 posted on 06/21/2003 10:52:07 AM PDT by UnklGene
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To: UnklGene
Oi Vey...

Ron Wyatt has already found this junk and has documented it.

http://www.wyattmuseum.com/red-sea-crossing-04.htm
2 posted on 06/21/2003 11:04:33 AM PDT by VaBthang4 (Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?)
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To: UnklGene
The Bible has NEVER been proven wrong, so this is not surprising at all. What is surprisng is how man goes out of his way to try to avoid proving the absolute historical accuracy of it.
3 posted on 06/21/2003 11:05:35 AM PDT by Russell Scott (Jesus will soon appear in persons.)
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To: VaBthang4
A fantastic link - thanks for posting it.

(Getting that old urge to put on my fedora hat and grab my bullwhip and GO somewhere).

4 posted on 06/21/2003 11:08:38 AM PDT by strela ("Each of us can find a maggot in our past which will happily devour our futures." Horatio Hornblower)
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To: UnklGene
And some people say the Old Testament is merely a story!
5 posted on 06/21/2003 11:10:07 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: UnklGene
bump
6 posted on 06/21/2003 11:10:42 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Salvation
And some people say the Old Testament is merely a story!

Given the way some of those "experts" live their lives, they are betting
(probably more likely praying!) that the OT and NT are just stories!

They sure don't want to contemplate the alternative!
7 posted on 06/21/2003 11:12:22 AM PDT by VOA
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To: UnklGene
Bumping and bookmarking for later read.
8 posted on 06/21/2003 11:12:49 AM PDT by TruthNtegrity (God bless America, God bless President George W. Bush and God bless our Military!)
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To: Salvation
the OT and NT are THE story, not a story!
9 posted on 06/21/2003 11:20:10 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: strela
You're welcome. I remember when I first found the site and dug into the things he had uncovered....boy, it's exciting to see. Especially the Mt. Sinai [Jabel El Lawz] location.

If you read deep into Wyatt's discovery....he found where King Solomon had come to the crossing site and erected two pillars [one on each side of Aqaba] to commemorate the crossing site.

Some other awesome photos from his website...

The crossing site.

This is the approach [the only approach] to the beach.

The view of the beach from the Saudi side [Midian]


10 posted on 06/21/2003 11:26:58 AM PDT by VaBthang4 (Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?)
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To: UnklGene
Rack itttttt Gene

RACKKKKK THE Red sea

Well what did Bible say in last days bones be crying out from ground
11 posted on 06/21/2003 11:36:02 AM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in it for truth, justice, and the American way=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: VOA
**They sure don't want to contemplate the alternative!**

Very true!

But..............................someday they will meet their Maker face to face. Not much to comtemplate then! LOL!
12 posted on 06/21/2003 11:44:00 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: UnklGene
For years I've been wondering if chariot parts would be found at the bottom of the Red Sea. Solid clear cut evidence of one of the records in the Old Testament and of one of God's miracles.

Very interesting!
13 posted on 06/21/2003 11:45:47 AM PDT by dbehsman (NRA Life member and loving every minute of it!)
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To: Russell Scott; UnklGene
For years I've been wondering if chariot parts would be found at the bottom of the Red Sea. Solid clear cut evidence of one of the records in the Old Testament and of one of God's miracles.

The Bible has NEVER been proven wrong, so this is not surprising at all. What is surprisng is how man goes out of his way to try to avoid proving the absolute historical accuracy of it.

I thing your going to have to find better evidence than this:

"I am 99.9 percent sure I picked up a chariot wheel," Peter Elmer tells WorldNetDaily after two diving trips to the Gulf of Aqaba branch of the sea. "It was covered in coral."

For freaking crying out loud, these type of people continue to ignore the reality of evolution even with the gargantuan quantity of evidence supporting it. Then they claim as proof the unsubstantiated claims of a few divers.

14 posted on 06/21/2003 11:49:31 AM PDT by rmmcdaniell
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To: VaBthang4
Does this jibe with where the "Gold of Exodus" book described the crossing, I wonder?
15 posted on 06/21/2003 11:55:03 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree
Does this jibe with where the "Gold of Exodus" book described the crossing, I wonder?

I was all set to ask that! The Gold of Exodus is a wonderful, exciting book.

16 posted on 06/21/2003 12:00:58 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Freedom: America's finest export.)
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To: UnklGene
i've been to wyatt's museum in tennesee. and talked to his colleage, the one who runs the museum.

I'm quite convinced of noah's arc, the evedence of evenly spaced metal in the fossilized wood in the shape of a boat in the middle east is no coincidence.

also conviced of his finding the mountain where God gave us the Ten commandments, connected with the red sea crossing that happened earlier. the mountain with the top burned on it, pictures of charit weels in the red sea, hebrew writing and drawings on the rocks at the base of the mountain, also old ruins of structures there too.

he claims he found the arc of the covenent, underground in jeruselem, but has no evidence of it.

it's all very interesting.
17 posted on 06/21/2003 12:05:52 PM PDT by sonofron
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To: rmmcdaniell
For freaking crying out loud, these type of people continue to ignore the reality of evolution even with the gargantuan quantity of evidence supporting it. Then they claim as proof the unsubstantiated claims of a few divers.

Valid point -- if, that is, if -- they are the same people. Someone who is reasonably sceptical about "evolution" (and I would love to see a succinct, paragraph or less in length, disprovable theory specification for evolution) is going to sceptical about this as well.

18 posted on 06/21/2003 12:10:44 PM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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To: UnklGene
the museum is outside nashville, but i can't remember the exit number. i was honestly expecting a more grand museum, but it was quite modest. i still urge ppl to go see it and talk to the owner/curator(?).
19 posted on 06/21/2003 12:13:47 PM PDT by sonofron
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To: rmmcdaniell
Re: "...these type of people continue to ignore the reality of evolution even with the gargantuan quantity of
evidence supporting it."

What "gargantuan" evidence? Evolution is and always has been a theory. The only thing that would prove evolution made any difference is if someday it is proved that one species "jumped" to form another more advanced and different species. This hasn't happen and most likely never will. Evolution remains a series of changes to a species within the species.




20 posted on 06/21/2003 12:15:40 PM PDT by whereasandsoforth
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