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To: Stone Mountain
But, Mountain, he's some kind of HIV counselor. He sees the results of stupid sex firsthand routinely and is well-educated in the matter.

Washington, a state-certified HIV/AIDS counselor, regularly speaks out about abstinence. He says he does so because it is the best alternative, particularly for African-American couples.
I think from the wording that Mr. Celibacy is black, has completed state certification for HIV/AIDS counseling, and is a director of external affairs for SBC Indiana (I think this is a phone company, not the Southern Baptists). He has a special concern for the destructiveness that has been wrought in black communities by sexual immorality.

Do you really think he's wrong about that? He's making a pretty strong statement on the subject by his own abstinence.
426 posted on 06/16/2003 12:09:27 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
But, Mountain, he's some kind of HIV counselor. He sees the results of stupid sex firsthand routinely and is well-educated in the matter. I think from the wording that Mr. Celibacy is black, has completed state certification for HIV/AIDS counseling, and is a director of external affairs for SBC Indiana (I think this is a phone company, not the Southern Baptists). He has a special concern for the destructiveness that has been wrought in black communities by sexual immorality..

I think he's wrong when he tries to generalize his experience to me. I've had pre-marital sex. It was and is an important part of the dating relationships I choose to have. I believe my life has been enhanced by these experiences, and I don't regret any of them. So when some counselor who has never even met me tries to tell me that, "Sex shouldn't be part of a dating relationship," all I get from that is that he is projecting his morals and values onto me. I'm not telling him to go out and get laid, despite all of the positive benefits I feel that I have acheived from same. Why would I listen to this guy telling me that my behavior is wrong - the fact that he's an HIV/AIDS counselor means little to me. I have calculated the risks to myself, and have decided that in my risk-benefit anaylsis, the benefits far outweigh the risks. He may have decided something different for himself, and that's fine, but when starts telling me that I "need to abstain if [I] can't put a ring on a woman's finger," sorry, at that point, he's made the move from possible role model to overreaching busybody.
427 posted on 06/16/2003 12:50:40 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: George W. Bush
{Washington, a state-certified HIV/AIDS counselor, regularly speaks out about abstinence. He says he does so because it is the best alternative, particularly for African-American couples.....He has a special concern for the destructiveness that has been wrought in black communities by sexual immorality.}

Kudos to Darren Washington! He is a terrific role model for not only the black community, but for all Americans.
469 posted on 06/16/2003 6:50:23 PM PDT by Kuksool
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