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Bush to hail Iraqi triumph(Bush will land on USS Abraham Lincoln in a Viking jet!)
ft.com ^ | 4/30/03 | James Harding

Posted on 04/30/2003 3:44:28 PM PDT by finnman69

With sailors, marines and a flight deck full of fighter jets on a US aircraft carrier as his backdrop, President George W. Bush will on Thursday night declare the triumph of US forces in Iraq. With sailors, marines and a flight deck full of fighter jets on a US aircraft carrier as his backdrop, President George W. Bush will on Thursday night declare the triumph of US forces in Iraq.With sailors, marines and a flight deck full of fighter jets on a US aircraft carrier as his backdrop, President George W. Bush will on Thursday night declare the triumph of US forces in Iraq.

But Mr Bush will choose his words carefully to avoid making a straightforward victory declaration, and will not announce the end of the war. Instead, he will say that the main combat operations in Iraq are over.

Under the Geneva Convention, a victorious army must release prisoners of war and cease operations aimed at enemy leaders once war is declared to be over.

The Bush administration does not want to burden the US-led forces in Iraq with the legal responsibilities of an occupying power, which would be triggered by a statement from the president marking the end of the war.

But the White House is also keen to give the American people a sense of closure after the Iraq war, and to reap political riches from the success of Operation Iraqi Freedom, as Mr Bush trains his energies on the domestic agenda and his 2004 re-election campaign.

The jumpsuit and jet-fighter backdrop chosen to mark the end of hostilities offers a dramatic contrast to Mr Bush's solemn and formulaic statement at the outset of the conflict on March 19. For that occasion he addressed the nation from behind the so-called Resolute desk - carved from the timbers of the abandoned British warship HMS Resolute.

On Thursday evening, Mr Bush, who is known to enjoy sporting the US military bomber jacket that is the prerogative of the commander-in-chief, is expected to land on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln in a Viking jet.

The S-3B Viking, which which will carry Mr Bush to the aircraft carrier recently returned after nine months at sea, normally serves as a reconnaissance scout and attack aircraft that hunts enemy submarines.

The four-seater jet will need to make a cable-arrested landing.

The dramatic staging of Mr Bush's close of combat remarks are due to be televised live on the main US television networks at the request of the White House.

"The ship will be hundreds of miles from shore when the president arrives," Ari Fleischer, the White House press secretary, said on Wenesday. "It will be steaming the entire time. The speech will be given on the moving aircraft carrier literally bringing the sailors and marines home to their families and loved ones."

Mr Fleischer noted that Mr Bush could not be expected to announce the end of the war when US forces continued to encounter pockets of Iraqi resistance.

Mr Bush has spoken to General Tommy Franks, who told him that "major combat operations have ended and that the next phase has begun, which is the reconstruction of Iraq", Mr Fleischer said.

Over the past three weeks, a series of increasingly senior US officials ranging from Major General Stanley McChrystal to Colin Powell, secretary of state, and Donald Rumsfeld, defence secretary, have lined up to announce the end of the hostilities phase.

But the White House press office is determined to present Mr Bush - who served in the Texas Air National Guard during the war in Vietnam - as a president deeply embedded in the US military.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; carrierbush; commanderinchief; iraqifreedom; navyone; pictures; ussabrahamlincoln; viking
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Anyone know the landing speed of the S3-B?"

I am a little out of my area, but I do know they land at full throttle. Its probably in the neighborhood of 150-175 knots, but thats just a guess.,/p>

81 posted on 04/30/2003 5:42:18 PM PDT by judicial meanz (Audaces Fortuna Juvat)
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Over the 1MC "CIC, arriving."


82 posted on 04/30/2003 5:44:38 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Wolfstar
..try sleeping with 3 pugs!
83 posted on 04/30/2003 5:45:01 PM PDT by mystery-ak (The War is not over for me until my hubby's boots hit U.S. soil)
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
just so the Lord watches over him.......
84 posted on 04/30/2003 5:46:14 PM PDT by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: Wolfstar
Good question. I believe that his Marine Corps H-3 is called Marine One.

I can't recall a President ever riding in a Naval Aircraft. (or an Army one, for that matter.)

85 posted on 04/30/2003 5:54:38 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: Malsua
Imagine the pilot though! He gets to fly Airforce 1!

Navy 1

86 posted on 04/30/2003 5:55:56 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: mystery-ak
I'd love it, even though I understand they snore due to their pushed-in faces. Never met a dog I didn't like.
87 posted on 04/30/2003 5:56:26 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Bush-Cheney: four more years!)
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To: judicial meanz
Full throttle is applied as soon as the plane touches down in case of a bolter, missed wire. An approach flown at full throttle would be waved off by the LSO as too fast. Landing speed is ~135 knots.
88 posted on 04/30/2003 6:06:00 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: SC Swamp Fox
Before all Presidential helicopter flights were assigned to HMX-1 in 1976 the duties were split between the Marine Corps and the Army. Ford permanently assigned the mission to the Marine Corps after the Army dumped a VH-3 into the Potomac.
89 posted on 04/30/2003 6:17:31 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Wolfstar
ROTFLOL
Liberman is 'troubled'; Daschle is 'saddened'.
90 posted on 04/30/2003 6:29:54 PM PDT by patricia
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To: jackbill
Of course MR. Kur failed to mention the scandal that followed the Clintons stay onboard the USS GEORGE WASHINGTON during the D-Day 50th anniversary celebration. Treating the GW like a stay at the Little Rock Holiday Inn the Clinton party looted towels, robes and anything else not firmly bolted to GW's hull. Of course the White House apologized and paid for the "missing" items.
91 posted on 04/30/2003 6:31:59 PM PDT by The Squid
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To: votelife
"Bush landing in plane on Truman"

Me thinks he is landing on the Abraham Lincoln.
92 posted on 04/30/2003 6:45:25 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: finnman69
This has got to be one of the coolest,most-dare I say it- testosterone laden acts of the Bush Presidency.I mean,other than going to war twice and having the enemy on the run. Maureen Dowd is going to have a cow.Daschle has probably fainted. Clinton must be so frustrated-don't get between Clinton and a sink !! I bet Hillary is throwing ashtrays right and left,screaming at Blubba,for not thinking of going to war and then greeting the troops like this. How soon before we hear from Clinton,that actually,he was going to make a wire landing,but,Ken Starr and the VRWC prevented it ??!!
93 posted on 04/30/2003 7:06:21 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Thanks Smedley....I was a little out of my area, but I tried...LOL

94 posted on 04/30/2003 7:28:02 PM PDT by judicial meanz (Audaces Fortuna Juvat)
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To: MoodyBlu
Darned if we didn't!

Glad there is someone like you in the business who knew the information. I had read the explanation sometime back and thought that the "Executive One" call-sign would probably never be used, but hey, this must be one of the first times that the call-sign "NAVY ONE" has been used.

Got to be a a first having "NAVY ONE" make a trap on an active duty carrier returning from its final war cruise.

Great photo op for the CinC.

dvwjr
95 posted on 04/30/2003 7:35:02 PM PDT by dvwjr
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To: Publicus
Imagine the Captain announcing, "The President of the United States" and a band playing Hail to the Chief as the plane lands on to the deck ands W climbs down!

Actually, the bosun mate of the watch would ring 8 bells (ding-ding times 4) and pass the word "United States, Arriving" (United States is his short title). After he got off the plane, he would pass through a line 8 side boys with another bosun mate piping him aboard.

Ike passing through side boys.

96 posted on 04/30/2003 7:45:11 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: finnman69
An S3-B will be AF1

I doubt it will be Air Force One when it's a Navy aircraft. When he's in a Marine chopper, it become Marine One, when he's in an Air Force plane, be the "Presidential" 747 or not, it's Air Force One, so I'm pretty sure that S-3 will become Navy One. Maybe they' stencil something under the cockpit to indicate a successfull Presidential ferry mission. :) Hmm, what would be appropriate? Maybe a small version of the Presidential Seal? Maybe a Large version just for the mission? That would be good.

97 posted on 04/30/2003 7:46:51 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
With all these animations going, suprised someone hasn't done a 747 Air Force One landing on a flat-top.
99 posted on 04/30/2003 7:50:57 PM PDT by RasterMaster
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To: blackdog
What did Bush fly when he was in the Air Guard?

F-102 Delta Dagger. He flew them just before, basically up until, his unit converted to the F-106. Just like these.

Those are even from his unit of the Texas Air National Guard.

100 posted on 04/30/2003 8:03:34 PM PDT by El Gato
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