[americanbychoice]

What the Europeans don't understand is the patriotism of americans. It is something very foreign to them. We don't need a Government to tell us what to do. Grassroots are working so much better. The best way we can get at the frogs is Tourism. Right now France is the number 1 tourist destination for Americans. We need to add a few 0's to that one.

[Illbay]

What the Europeans don't understand is the patriotism of americans. It is something very foreign to them.

That might be generally true, but it is a matter of degree.

As we can see by the behavior of the "war" protestors, the Dem politicians, the media elites and the like, there are PLENTY of people here at home who have little regard for what WE call "patriotism" (to them, as Gary Hart explained it last night on "Hannity & Colmes", "Patriotism" means "wanting the people of your country to have things like health care and social security.")

But there are even more people here who DO observe the classic definition of "Patriotism": "Love of country before self."

There are many Europeans who feel this way as well--especially in countries like Great Britain, where membership and participation in the E.U. continues to be highly controversial. Remember that Denmark actually rejected the "Edinburgh Agreement" several years ago, until they were bullied by--who else?--France and Germany into signing it on penalty of drastic sanctions against them.

And there are many "nationalistic movements" going on right now, in the Netherlands, in Denmark, in Scotland, and in France (Le Pen's people).

These movements are considered by the pan-unionists to be "fascistic," but that doesn't maean much--socialists label anything "fascistic" that doesn't meet their "standards."