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Socialization of homeschoolers
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, March 15, 2003 | Kyle Williams

Posted on 03/18/2003 2:11:23 AM PST by JohnHuang2

On nearly a daily basis, I am asked about the socialization of homeschoolers. That poor horse has been beaten dead from both sides. We know who continues to address the "problem," and it has been dismissed. Yet, what I, at least, have failed to address is why socialization is not only a non-issue for homeschoolers, but socialization is better done at home.

We can point to the successes of homeschoolers, their accomplishments and their abilities, but aside from that, why should socialization be done at home? First and foremost, God commanded that parents should teach their children, in Deuteronomy 11: 18-19:

Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds; tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. Teach them to your children, talking about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up.

This coincides with socialization. With homeschooling, one is able to do what God commanded – something you won't find in government schools and sometimes not found in private schools. God told us to do this, not to get others to do it.

There is a joke that goes something like this: "I used to be worried about the socialization of my homeschooled child, but now I don't worry. Everyday I take my 8-year-old to the bathroom, beat him up, cuss him out and offer him drugs."

It may sound preposterous, but seriously, that joke is not far from reality. In contrast with government education, homeschooling offers a safe environment, is physically safe, spiritually safe and morally safe. That creates a foundation which will stay with the person their entire life and keep him or her anchored. Most homeschoolers I have encountered know right from wrong and are not afraid to express it.

Bottom line to socialization at home: It creates power and a firepower that will protect and hold together a person. And that, I believe, is the reason socialization is one of the biggest non-issues in the education debate. When one side of the political spectrum is brewing a force that will be nearly impossible to break, the other side gets a little nervous.

A final point in favor of homeschooled socialization – and perhaps one of the greatest – is that it closely knits together a loyal and loving family. You cannot compare the loyalty and kinship found in homeschooled families to families schooled in government institutions their entire life.

Socialization is not only a non-issue for homeschoolers, socialization at home is morally superior to government socialization. A child is the responsibility of their parents, and they require care, comfort, education and love, and all these things wrap into the issue of socialization. Furthermore, because of that, socialization is better done at home with parents who know them, love them and have their best interests at heart.

To leave the life of a child in the hands of the government and strangers almost their entire childhood life is not only a mistake, but immoral.

To add a disclaimer: Not all families are able to homeschool – including single moms and others – but the best thing you can do is be involved as much as possible in the life of your children. To become closely involved is the least one could do.

It all comes down to priorities. When both parents are working, their two young children are in public school (and then day care or latchkey the rest of the day), priorities are definitely in disorder. Which do you love more: your children or your job? If children are truly loved and they are the top priority, that's when socialization is best done at home.

Socialization should no longer be a problem for homeschoolers, but adopted as a strength and a force that will create long-reaching and untold effects.


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Tuesday, March 18, 2003

Quote of the Day by small voice in the wilderness

1 posted on 03/18/2003 2:11:23 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
To leave the life of a child in the hands of the government and strangers almost their entire childhood life is not only a mistake, but immoral.

Absolutely damn right!

2 posted on 03/18/2003 2:13:30 AM PST by BikerTrash
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To: JohnHuang2
H S bump.
3 posted on 03/18/2003 2:34:33 AM PST by Spirited
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To: JohnHuang2
As a homeschooling parent this is constantly thrown up to me as a challenge by the slaves of public schools. They always ask, "what about socializing for the children?"

The problem is I've seen the "socialization" public school has to offer from the administrators and the unattended brats left to their own devices by disinterested, indulging parents. If my kids never encounter anybody at all it is better than the product I've seen produced by the public education system.

4 posted on 03/18/2003 2:41:35 AM PST by Types_with_Fist
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To: Homeschoolmom
ping..
5 posted on 03/18/2003 2:42:36 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Types_with_Fist
I used to get the same argument, especially since I have an "only child."

But now that my son is a teenager, all the comments have changed.

Now people asked how we managed to get a teenager that seems truly interested in people of all ages. They note how he can carry on a conversation with adults, but is not above playing with the younger children in the group.

I didn't instruct him in these things, I believe it is a direct result of homeschooling, and removing him from a "peer" dominated environment.

He never learned it was "not cool" to carry on conversations with adults, or play with and entertain cranky 3 year olds.

6 posted on 03/18/2003 3:10:39 AM PST by dawn53
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To: dawn53
That is encouraging, thank you! And...congratulations...:-)
7 posted on 03/18/2003 3:17:15 AM PST by Types_with_Fist
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To: dawn53
You are exactly right. What is weird and abnormal, is the idea of getting all the children born in a certain year from a community together, isolating them from everyone else, and indoctrinating them in the idea that the state is all powerful.

This is what public schools do, and it is one of the strangest "socializations" in the history of mankind.

8 posted on 03/18/2003 4:04:30 AM PST by marktwain
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To: dawn53
It's been the same way for us. We have an only child, our daughter, who is now in college. When we were homeschooling her, I constantly was asked about "socialization". I got SO sick of that question. When the people who asked about it, finally met her, they couldn't believe how eloquent and "socialized" she was. She has ALWAYS been comfortable with people of ALL ages. In fact, I was in a public school and was extremely shy until I went to college. Our daughter has always been just the opposite.
9 posted on 03/18/2003 4:10:25 AM PST by cowgirlcutie
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To: dawn53
BTW, the last person who asked the question about socialization, also threw in the comment, "Well, I would just thought that since your daughter is homeschooled, that she might be very uncomfortable around other people and withdrawn." My comment to her was, "Well, I don't mean to be rude, but your children go to public school, right? Are they dope infested degenerates?" She had to agree finally, that the "socialization" question is baseless.
10 posted on 03/18/2003 4:15:04 AM PST by cowgirlcutie
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To: Types_with_Fist
Decisions - decisions........

You either have problems of "socialization" at home or.....

lockstep problems of "socialismization" at public school!

What's a Mama to do??
11 posted on 03/18/2003 4:58:51 AM PST by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear - including this one)
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To: marktwain
Read this article from a public high school senior who says pretty much the same thing you're saying. Students are being taught that the state is all-powerful:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/housley1.html

At least he can set his sister straight.
12 posted on 03/18/2003 5:51:23 AM PST by ladylib
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To: dawn53
I agree, now that my homeschooled for 5 years, teenaged son has grown more, I constantly hear, "how di he get so polite?", or "Is he a genius?". LOL, it is really funny to now show the product of homeschooling and see all the mouths shut up.
13 posted on 03/18/2003 6:46:41 AM PST by goodseedhomeschool
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To: goodseedhomeschool
(sorry for the previous bad spelling, just woke up, lol)
I would like to add that most of the homeschoolers I know, are the most fun and delightful children to talk to. They have no problem opening up to adults.
HOMESCHOOL RULES!!! :)
14 posted on 03/18/2003 6:50:25 AM PST by goodseedhomeschool
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To: JohnHuang2
OH, AND ONE MORE THING.....
It is common knowledge that the majority of homeschoolers are not only conservative, but also politicaly active, and that scares a liberal half to death. So it's no wonder these stories of "socialization" are on the fronts.
15 posted on 03/18/2003 6:54:07 AM PST by goodseedhomeschool
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To: dawn53
Do any of you homeschoolers here have any good links where I can get more info on homeschooling my kids? I have a 2 yr old and a 5 mth old that I've been really considering homeschooling. I live in Georgia.
16 posted on 03/18/2003 6:55:40 AM PST by honeygrl
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To: goodseedhomeschool
I took my 14 year old out to the local community college for a Placement Test to see if he could take some courses. He scored well, and they said he could take any course he wanted, and acted like he was some kind of "genius" kid.

I'm here to tell you , the kid is no genius!!! He just got a good basic education in math (thank you Saxon Math), reading, and grammar, and that's why he did good on the test.

17 posted on 03/18/2003 7:03:43 AM PST by dawn53
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To: honeygrl
There are so many resources on the internet, just use a search engine and plug in "homeschool." We've used all kinds of curriculum.

Your kids are young, most homeschoolers don't start any formal instruction until the kids are 5 at least, and usually 6 or 7.

In the meantime, just read to them, take them to fun places (zoos, museums, etc.) and TALK to them.

18 posted on 03/18/2003 7:06:51 AM PST by dawn53
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To: honeygrl
Check out www.homeschools.org

This is the Web site for Christian Liberty Academy. We've used their curricula for nearly 18 years, have seven children, and have found these folks to be just fabulous.......and VERY rigorous. Highly, highly recommend them.

19 posted on 03/18/2003 7:13:01 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: JohnHuang2
We are constantly being told how well our children behave.

Homeschooling works and we hear the socialization debate all the time.

It is not how little they will learn at a public school but how much they will that bothers us.

20 posted on 03/18/2003 7:15:40 AM PST by jacksonstate
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