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Breaking News: World Alert on Mystery Disease (Broke 1 Hour Ago in Australia)
Herald Sun.UK (Australia) / AP ^ | 3/17/2003 | AP Staff

Posted on 03/16/2003 7:54:32 AM PST by ex-Texan

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To: Movemout
Stable on Saturday

Slightly worse on Sunday

Mother-in-law w/ >fever

Anecdotal evidence appears to be mounting that this is transmitted via casual contact vs/ airborne, that would be a blessing
61 posted on 03/16/2003 10:18:14 AM PST by Mother Abigail
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To: ex-Texan

62 posted on 03/16/2003 10:21:42 AM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: ex-Texan
"It's a highly contagious disease and it's moving around by jet. It's bad." ..."The advisory said there was no reason to restrict travel "

There won't be if you wait long enough.

63 posted on 03/16/2003 10:22:08 AM PST by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Mother Abigail
How would you have liked to be the one sitting next to this doctor on the plane while he got sicker and sicker? Yikes!
64 posted on 03/16/2003 10:22:11 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/terroristcorecard/index.html)
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To: realpatriot71
Referring to the failure thus far to identify the source:
"If it is a virus, none of this is surprising"

If it were a previously known virus, it would seem reasonable that something this high profile would have been identified by now.

However, if this is a previously unknown virus, then I agree completely.
65 posted on 03/16/2003 10:22:28 AM PST by EternalHope (France and Germany are with Sauron. But they are so insignificant he didn't notice.)
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To: Mother Abigail
Yes casual contact risk would be easier to mitigate. So much for handshakes and a buss on the cheek to say hello.
66 posted on 03/16/2003 10:25:31 AM PST by Movemout
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To: EternalHope; realpatriot71
I don't know if you being obtuse on purpose or I'm just not explaining it correctly. Did real patriot's post make sense to you? It did to me.
67 posted on 03/16/2003 10:28:06 AM PST by Movemout
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To: Maeve
All our griefs and sins to bear, child..

The man who wrote this famous 19th-century hymn was familiar with loneliness. He fought it all his life. It was after one bout with depression that he wrote the words to this song.

What he had discovered was the reality of friendship with Jesus Christ. He knew that because Jesus lived upon earth as a man, He understands our feelings. He knows what it is like to be lonely. He suffered the pain of rejection and cruelty, and felt hunger and thirst. The Bible describes Him as "a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief" (Isaiah 53:3).

Listen
68 posted on 03/16/2003 10:30:00 AM PST by Mother Abigail
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To: EternalHope
However, if this is a previously unknown virus, then I agree completely.

The flu changes every year, and that's the reason for a new "flu-shot" every year. This particular bug probably got mixed up with another animal virus of the same family of viruses, and came out being a bit more nasty than usual. I wouldn't panic over the bug just yet, but there is no reason to be cavalier either. You can do a lot to help yourself and your loved ones by just taking care of yourself - plenty of sleep, fluids, yada-yada-yada . . .

69 posted on 03/16/2003 10:31:20 AM PST by realpatriot71 (legalize freedom!)
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To: Mother Abigail
Isn’t casual contact and airborne pretty much the same thing? If I sneeze and tiny droplets of aerosolized virus are dispersed into the air and you breath them you get sick. If the aerosolized droplets get on your hand when we shake hands and then you rub your eyes you get sick. If you blow your nose and then hold the railing as you descend the stairs and another person behind you holds the same spot and then rubs their eyes they get sick. If the aerosolized droplets get moved down the hall by an air current and someone breaths them in they get sick.

Seems to me to be the same basic thing. The only really interesting question is how long does the disease agent ( virus?) survive outside the host. An even more interesting question is if a crow lands on an infected corpse and eats it, will a mosquito that feeds on that bird and then a human still be a carrier of the agent. I’m sure there are many people trying to figure all this out at this very moment.

70 posted on 03/16/2003 10:31:49 AM PST by sytole
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To: sytole
An even more interesting question is if a crow lands on an infected corpse and eats it, will a mosquito that feeds on that bird and then a human still be a carrier of the agent.

Depends on how old the corpse is. If the corpse is fresh, and if the crow body can act a carrier without killing the virus, and if the mosquito can act as a second carrier, then yes, it's possible, but highly UNlikely.

71 posted on 03/16/2003 10:37:22 AM PST by realpatriot71 (legalize freedom!)
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To: sytole
Casual contact - The doctor hospitalized in Germany will transmit the infectious agent to his wife and mother-in-law, and perhaps flight crew

Airborne - other passengers on the plane will develop SARS

It is difficult to overstate the quantum difference between these two transmission modes - Airborne is exponentially more frightening..
72 posted on 03/16/2003 10:49:10 AM PST by Mother Abigail
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To: patton
I think it is related.
73 posted on 03/16/2003 11:07:07 AM PST by Milesdavislover
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To: Straight Vermonter
"How would you have liked to be the one sitting next to this doctor on the plane while he got sicker and sicker? Yikes! "

Or anywhere on the plane for that matter. If it's so contagious that nurses are dying from treating patients, then I would think an overseas trip with airplanes no better ventilated than they are would be pretty much expose everyone on the plane.

I wish they would identify whether it's bateria or virus. I'm tempted to go get a pneumonia vaccine just in case that would help. I get the flu vaccine every year, despite the possibilities of side effects. In part, because I don't want to spread the flu and in part because they keep saying we are overdue for a killer flu epidemic and I figure some protection is better than none.

74 posted on 03/16/2003 11:08:25 AM PST by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: EternalHope
The fatality number currently being used is OVER 90% of the cases. The reason they are using that high a number is that thus far, NO ONE has recovered. Until someone gets well, they have no way to estimate the fatality rate.

There was an article last night which claimed one recovery. I'll look for it.

75 posted on 03/16/2003 11:15:51 AM PST by Dianna
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To: Dianna
I see that this has already been mentioned.
76 posted on 03/16/2003 11:22:07 AM PST by Dianna
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To: SauronOfMordor
was the doctor's name "achmed?"
77 posted on 03/16/2003 11:42:06 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (What price treason?)
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To: per loin
What?
Are you suggesting that this a shot across our bow, by the socialist commies that support sadaam, at the UN? Via the WHO?

Do you really think that clinton appointees and workers in the CDC are collaborating with their counterparts in the UN's WHO, to try and show us that we cannot win this war, that we are vulnerable and that germ warfare will wipe us out if we piss off the arabists?

...not as crazy as it once would have sounded to me.
78 posted on 03/16/2003 11:53:37 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (What price treason?)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
I think it likely that WHO, the CDC, etc. are running a test of how well they can respond globally to a new unidentified killer disease. If this is real, rather than a test, we should be seeing many more cases outside the medical profession.
79 posted on 03/16/2003 12:01:09 PM PST by per loin
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To: Maeve
Thanks for the heads up!
80 posted on 03/16/2003 12:31:11 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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