[Norman Arbuthnot]

I'm skeptical; is the guy who carries 'the football' really in the chain of command to this extent? Why would the National Security Advisor approach the President through a lower-middle rank military officer?

I don't find this hard to believe at all. LTC Patterson was acting as a messenger in this situation, he was not "in the chain of command". I can't imagine Patterson making this story up. As far as I know Sandy Berger has not disavowed what Patterson claims and I think Berger would do that in a heartbeat if he could.

[battlegearboat]

President George Herbert Walker Bush once warned Clinton not to meddle with his son's presidential race with Gore. (Or something like that...anyway, it seemed to shut Clinton up.)

Now that former presidents Clinton and Carter have seen fit to publicly criticize and undermine our president, isn't it time for former President Bush (and wife Barbara) to fire back with everything they have?

They've been polite too long and it's now time to take off the gloves and give these two, the two "worst ever" presidents, a pasting.

[SSN558]

" I can't imagine Patterson making this story up."

I can't imagine Col. Patterson making this up either. He was my boss 25 years ago. One of the most straight up Air Force officers, I ever met.