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To: Timesink
It just occurred to me -- if you say "white men can't jump", a statement asserting that members of a race are incapable of something, nobody would bat an eyelash. If you said "black people CAN jump", a statement which says that members of a race have a skill, then that is racist. To my eyes, the first statment could be interpreted as more insulting than the first, because it asserts a negative.

Both statements are overly general, and perhaps exaggerated, but they can be subjected to empirical tests in a scientific manner, which is far better than most hypothetical racist statements (such as " people are evil"). Yet the two sentences are treated vastly differently. This is a double-standard.

If 'victims' want to be treated as equals, then they ought to stop drawing attention to themselves as victims. You don't see Condaleezza Rice talking about how black she is, or how hard she had to fight 'whitey'. She just worked her butt off. As a result, she isn't primarily a black to me, or even a woman. She's a qualified, eminently competent human being. Contrast her to someonle like Harry Belafonte, who practically screams "look how black I am!"

I apologize if I come off as too blunt, and I'm sure liberals would find some way of accusing me of being a bigot, when in fact it is just the opposite. But I felt I needed to say it. Mods, it's your call if my post is deemed inappropriate. I'm tired of walking on eggshells about this issue.

101 posted on 03/14/2003 2:01:49 PM PST by TrappedInLiberalHell (Let's Iraq and Roll!)
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
It just occurred to me -- if you say "white men can't jump", a statement asserting that members of a race are incapable of something, nobody would bat an eyelash

The ironic thing about it is that all the world record holders of the high jump at the time the movie "White men can't jump" was released -- were white.

108 posted on 03/14/2003 3:15:16 PM PST by PallMal
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
I don't think your post is harsh. I think Spike Lee should be fired for calling mixed race people oreos and zebras, mutt people. I hated his movie Jungle Fever for stereotyping Italians (I'm half Italian) and getting away with it. How is it that Naomi Judd gets kicked off a show for what she said, but there are plenty of black personalities who never get punished? I WON'T WALK ON EGGSHELLS EITHER.

The reason why you will never heard Condi say anything is because she has a LIFE. She is too busy on Fantasy Island with Dubya solving the world's problems while these people count belly button fuzz. There are plenty of black people who are too busy working and providing for their families and having a good time to bother.
122 posted on 03/14/2003 6:28:33 PM PST by cyborg
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
" I apologize if I come off as too blunt, and I'm sure liberals would find some way of accusing me of being a bigot, when in fact it is just the opposite. But I felt I needed to say it. Mods, it's your call if my post is deemed inappropriate. I'm tired of walking on eggshells about this issue.

You must be joking. Walking on eggshells? More like tippy-toeing around the eggshells.

141 posted on 03/15/2003 3:25:51 AM PST by Godebert
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