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To: kattracks
IMHO, The U.N has shown itself to be useless. For anyone of these members to sign 1441 and not be willing to enforce it, their words mean nothing.

If we pulled out of the U.N. it would collapse or become nothing more the a huge circle jerk of diplomats gathered to share comforting thoughts. GWB gave the U.N. the opportunity to stand up and they failed, primarily due to the anti-American position France has taken.

The problem I see in the U.N. is that they are focused on confronting the USA and not confronting the REAL dangers that face the world. The U.N. has never been "out in front" of anything.

5 posted on 03/07/2003 11:40:26 PM PST by MJY1288 (It's Time To Roll)
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To: MJY1288
The problem I see in the U.N. is that they are focused on confronting the USA and not confronting the REAL dangers that face the world. The U.N. has never been "out in front" of anything.

And Saddam is wringing his hands with glee at the decention as much as Alqeda is.

11 posted on 03/08/2003 12:05:26 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: MJY1288
The UN 'become nothing more the a huge circle jerk ' - It has been that since it's creation. It has always been the US and Britain that have made 'diplomacy' and UN appear to work, backed up by our force/threat of force, and our sacrifice. The UN has never fullfilled it primary mandate of averting war. It has degenerated even more so recently with the current absurdity of Guinea as the head of the SC, and votes from other like countries such as Camoroon and Chile factoring into decisions about the security of the Middle East and our country?!

AND What's Worse even is UN/Diplomacy- whorshipers such as Powell and other doves from the state dept. (who played a major role in our not finishing the job due to 'UN mandate' in 'Dessert Storm'- I was in Army Inlell at the time and was pissed (as was Gen. Schwartzkof, who resigned in disgust, contrary to what he might say today) taking us through the UN this time, thus delaying action that should have been executed months ago. Powell's attempt to make the UN 'relevant' is putting our troops more at risk every day we continue to delay and play UN games, and even today couldn't bring himself to openly play hardball with the french, and even still called them 'friends' at press conference - disgusting!

The bottom line is that there is no reason for our hard-earned taxs and the extra expense that New York puts up to maintain such a useless debating society in our midst - world diplomacy will continue without the UN, as it always has in reality, through other institutions, organizations and direct talks and consultations - the UN should be told to have subsequent meetings at say a conference center at a Holiday Inn in paris - that prime East River property could be much better put to use for much-need NY housing.
16 posted on 03/08/2003 12:44:51 AM PST by Wisc Paul
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To: MJY1288
Without our money, the UN wouldn't last a week. They can't even afford to have a circle jerk without us.
31 posted on 03/08/2003 7:42:47 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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