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MSNBC: N Korean MiGs Intercepted US Reconnaissance Plane -
MSNBC ^ | March 3, 2003

Posted on 03/03/2003 11:56:13 AM PST by jern

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To: cmsgop
WHAT!?
41 posted on 03/03/2003 12:14:34 PM PST by RoughDobermann
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To: cmsgop
I saw that too! Guess it wasn't flying 18X the speed of light! ;)
42 posted on 03/03/2003 12:15:25 PM PST by Normal4me
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To: JackRyanCIA
"Why, that would be provocation."

Not 1/4 the provocation they would get were it up to me...

43 posted on 03/03/2003 12:15:48 PM PST by phasma proeliator (it's better to die with honor than to live without it.)
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To: Normal4me
It must be that dammed weekend director again!!!!LOL!!!!
44 posted on 03/03/2003 12:16:25 PM PST by cmsgop ( Arby's says no more Horsey Sauce for Scott Ritter !!!!)
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To: Dog
Maybe NK and China also. George W. is gonna go white before this is over.

God bless our troops and our country!

45 posted on 03/03/2003 12:16:32 PM PST by johnny7
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To: cmsgop
Excuse me?!??
46 posted on 03/03/2003 12:16:52 PM PST by mhking (Fasten your seatbelts! Infinity rewards careful drivers...)
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To: RoughDobermann
I didn't find it.
47 posted on 03/03/2003 12:17:17 PM PST by MEG33
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To: cmsgop
Oh sh!t.
48 posted on 03/03/2003 12:18:14 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Mr. Mojo
Individual people can lose their love for their government. Anyway my understanding is that most people in the NK military are there because it's the only garaunteed meal in the country and even then it usually sucks; that doesn't give people a lot of reason to die for their country. IMHO it's just a bunch of noise, NK does this looking for handouts but not wanting to be a beggar nation. Problem is we're a bit busy and really don't feel like playing this game right now (they did it right before Desert Storm too if you'll recall, and a couple of times during x42). It's always the same routine, they huff and puff, we pretend they're scary, we toss them some money, and they feel good about themselves.
49 posted on 03/03/2003 12:18:27 PM PST by discostu (This tag intentionally left blank)
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To: cmsgop
R U series?
50 posted on 03/03/2003 12:18:52 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: cmsgop
I got a digital cam picture of it off the TV. Anyone want to post it? I can email it out.
51 posted on 03/03/2003 12:19:05 PM PST by Normal4me
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To: Mo1
Sorry if you've already seen this:

N. Korea Wondering What It Has To Do To Attract U.S. Military Attention

PYONGYANG, NORTH KOREA—As the U.S. continues to inch toward war with Iraq, a jealous and frustrated North Korea is wondering what it has to do to attract American military attention.

 Above: Kim Jong Il.
Above: Kim Jong Il.

"What does it take to get a few F-16s or naval warships deployed to the Yellow Sea?" North Korean president Kim Jong Il asked Monday. "In the past month and a half, we've expelled U.N. nuclear inspectors, withdrawn from the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, restarted a mothballed nuclear complex capable of producing weapons-grade plutonium, and threatened to resume missile tests. You'd think that would be enough to get a measly Marine division or two on standby in the Pacific, but apparently not."

Kim said his nation is "way more deserving" of B-52 deployment than Iraq.

"Bush says his number one priority is eliminating weapons of mass destruction, but he sure doesn't act that way," Kim said. "Iraq may have weapons of mass destruction and may be developing more. The DPRK, on the other hand, does have weapons of mass destruction and isn't about to stop making them any time soon."

"Can I be any more clear?" Kim continued. "We have nuclear bombs and delivery methods. Kablooey! There goes Anchorage! But does Bush care? Nope—he just goes on about how we're 'a diplomatic issue, not a military one.' If he even mentions us at all, that is."

"It's like I don't even exist," Kim added.

In the nine years since coming to power, Kim has earned a reputation as a megalomaniac and tyrant, interring dissenters in camps, living in opulence while his citizens starve, and calling members of the North Korean navy "human bombs." In spite of such actions, he has failed to provoke the ire of the U.S.

After years spent trying to antagonize the U.S., relations between North Korea and America finally showed signs of deterioration in 2002, when, during his State of the Union address, President Bush accused the Asian nation of being part of an international "Axis of Evil." The provocative words, Kim said, sent his hopes of a military standoff with the U.S. skyrocketing.

Above: U.S. Marines that could be marching on Pyongyang engage in drills in the Persian Gulf.
Above: U.S. Marines that could be marching on Pyongyang engage in drills in the Persian Gulf.

"When Bush named us as part of his Axis of Evil, I was so happy," Kim said. "I thought to myself, 'This is it. We are finally going to have a military conflict with this two-faced hyena.' He'd been ignoring me so long, I really didn't think he cared."

Still, Kim's hopes for a U.S.-North Korea crisis quickly faded as Bush began to focus all of his energies on Axis of Evil member Iraq. In October 2002, Kim made yet another attempt to anger the U.S., admitting to enriching uranium in violation of a 1994 accord. The admission, however, did not produce the desired escalation in hostility.

Kim said he has not given up on attracting U.S. military attention, vowing to invade South Korea if necessary.

"I am by no means ready to quit, but this is very frustrating," Kim said. "I guess if your name's not Saddam, you're not worthy of America's hatred."

"Everyone in my country refers to me as 'Dear Leader.' Is that not disturbingly cultish?"Kim continued. "I do not understand why President Bush is so much more interested in Saddam than me. I'm a strange, despotic, unpredictable madman, too, you know."

52 posted on 03/03/2003 12:19:32 PM PST by BJClinton
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To: Dog
I would bet there are conference calls taking place daily between NK and Iraq.

Seriously...I could have sworn someone here reported Uday Hussein was in Pyongyang recently...I will see what I can find.

53 posted on 03/03/2003 12:19:35 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Dog
I think you're exactly right that Korea and Iraq are in bed together on this stuff. Everytime we focus on Iraq, Korea rears its ugly head and does something. Too bad Saddam doesn't seek asylum in North Korea. We could then just take both of the dipdoes out.
54 posted on 03/03/2003 12:19:49 PM PST by Cate (LET FREEDOM RING!!!!)
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To: cmsgop
FOX NEWS Ticker just said they shot our plane down?

Remember the Maine! Looks like Fox News is taking a page from William Randolf Hurst.

55 posted on 03/03/2003 12:20:15 PM PST by Station 51
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To: mhking
It was a mistake. FOX made the mistake!
56 posted on 03/03/2003 12:20:29 PM PST by cmsgop ( Arby's says no more Horsey Sauce for Scott Ritter !!!!)
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To: nicko
First Cavalry Division headed overseas

By Kevin J. Dwyer
Killeen Daily Herald

Fort Hood announced just before noon Monday that the 1st Cavalry Division received its deployment orders over the weekend and is beginning preparations to head overseas.

No announcement has been made about the division’s final destination other than the U.S. Central Command area of operations, which includes the Middle East, Central Asia and parts of Africa.

Post officials had no estimate Monday on how long it will take to complete the movement overseas.

Commanded by Maj. Gen. Joseph Peterson, the 1st Cav has about 17,000 soldiers assigned to the division’s seven brigades.

The division’s 1st and 2nd Brigades have completed their transition to the Army’s new digital battlefield systems. Its 3rd Brigade is scheduled to begin the transition process this year.

More than 12,500 4th Infantry Division are still waiting to deploy from Fort Hood, pending approval from the Turkish parliament to be staged in Turkey on Iraq’s northern border. The measure failed to win support from the Turkish parliament over the weekend, leaving the division’s equipment stranded on ships in the eastern Mediterranean.

As of Monday, about 1,100 soldiers have deployed from Fort Hood since the beginning of January.



Contact Kevin J. Dwyer at kjdwyer@kdhnews.com

57 posted on 03/03/2003 12:20:40 PM PST by tomkat
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To: cmsgop
It was a mistake. FOX made the mistake!

Don't SCARE me like that!

58 posted on 03/03/2003 12:21:32 PM PST by mhking (Fasten your seatbelts! Infinity rewards careful drivers...)
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To: Sparta
What type of MiG intercepted the recon plane?

Knowing the NKs, probaly a 21 or 23! I doubt they have much more modern stuff. If they did, they wouldnt use their best to bait the US or ROK Air Force. Just my opinion.

59 posted on 03/03/2003 12:21:36 PM PST by cardinal4 (Hollywood celebs are not relevant to Foreign Policy or National Security.)
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To: cmsgop
Okay, good.
60 posted on 03/03/2003 12:22:03 PM PST by Constitution Day
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