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"Open Doors and Open Windows. Silence About War With Islam"
ChronWatch ^ | Feb.25, 2003 | Robert Klein Engler

Posted on 02/25/2003 4:45:26 AM PST by conservativecorner

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To: Bulldogs22
Yeah. I'm a little disappointed with a couple of responses to this thread - if this level of misunderstanding of the problem reaches even into the realm of Freerepublic, I'd hate to see what the guy on the street thinks.

Perhaps if we put it in pop culture terms:

"We are Muslim. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated."
21 posted on 02/25/2003 6:16:55 AM PST by applemac_g4
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To: Jim Noble
No they're not.

Another strike on the US of A's mainland will be the start of total, unrestricted war.

They know they can't win that.
22 posted on 02/25/2003 6:20:02 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Flurry; conservativecorner; RAY; Jim Noble; Luis Gonzalez; astounded; GirlShortstop; John O; ...
Since it is obvious many just do not comprehend the depth of the anti-Western, anti-culture, oppressive nature of Islam and its relentless campaign to destroy Western Civilization, I am reposting this here:

Until people stop pretending Islam is just another religion, and start calling it what it is, the most repressive, violent, and backward ideology in the world, it will continue to opress its women and prevent all cultural and economic development, wherever it dominates, and threaten the world with vicious pointless violence.

Don't you watch the news? Do you know anything of what is going on in Algeria, Bangladesh, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Morocco, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Malaysia, or the Sudan, for example? One only needs to look at the news for any of these countries to observe the daily atrocities and obscene destruction Muslims regularly engage in.

There are no Muslim contributions to civilization, unless you think murder, rape, no music, no art, no alcohol, no pork, mutilating girls and repressing women are contributions. Muslims have never created anything of value. Everything Muslims have of value was stolen, including so-called contributions to science (which all came from India, mostly from Hindu scholars, before the Muslims slaughtered them), as well as the oil stolen from American companies which got it out of the ground for them.

Islam is the stupidist most repressive retrograde ideology on the planet. It is unkind to pretend it is anything else, and if people really cared about Arabs, and all others (most of whom are not Arabs) who have been deceived by this horrid life-destroying religion, they would be doing everything they could to see it wiped off the earth. To wish anything less for the world, and all those millions enslaved by Islam, is a hatred for humanity.

Some links to learn from:

Of course, the great majority of Muslims are peaceful -- so what?

Behind the Veil: A Muslim Woman Speaks Out

Here is what the article doesn't tell you

Killing Christians: The underreported story of Islamist violence around the world

Rotten to Its Core

Naming the enemy

A World Held Hostage

JIHAD IN AMERICA FR Up-to-date List of links.

Fatwa: Coming to a Country Near You

Preliminary Overview. - Saudi Arabia's Education System

Jews and Christians Are Apes and Pigs, Saudi Textbooks Say

PBS Shame On You: A former Muslim speaks.

The Daughter of an Arab Warrior Against Israel Tells Her Tale

The Wahhabi Fifth Column

The Stupidity of Dialogue With Islam This is Excellent!

Prophet Muhammad and Rape

Why Islam Hates Democracy

Will The Real Islam Please Stand Up?

The Social and Economic Implications of Sharia Law

Islamic World Net - Directory

Music and Singing in the Light of the Quran and Sunnah by Abu Bilal Mustafa Al-Kanadi

Mark Steyn's article, Goodbye Europe, describes what is going on in Europe right now.

Muslim Disinformation Campaign

Twenty-Year Plan for USA: Islam Targets America

The Golden Age of Islam is a Myth Excellent!!

ISLAM AS SEDITION More great links from FR.

=========Best Oriana Fallaci Links:

Rage and Pride
Il Corriere della Sera- September 29, 2001
Translated by Chris Knipp

How the West Was Won and How It Will Be Lost

Unquiet on the Western Front

Oriana Fallaci on Anti-Semitism

Italian author slams Islam's 'hate' for West

Roman Candle Oriana Fallaci sheds heat and light.

Oriana Fallaci Journalist, Interviewer and Author

Hank

23 posted on 02/25/2003 6:40:29 AM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Flurry
"I If I had my way I'd move Israel and Nuke the entire Middle-East"


I do not understand your conflict. Clarity of this situation is just begining to surface. Wait and watch.
24 posted on 02/25/2003 6:49:37 AM PST by Bulldogs22
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To: Hank Kerchief
"There are no Muslim contributions to civilization, unless you think murder, rape, no music, no art, no alcohol, no pork, mutilating girls and repressing women are contributions. Muslims have never created anything of value. Everything Muslims have of value was stolen, including so-called contributions to science (which all came from India, mostly from Hindu scholars, before the Muslims slaughtered them), as well as the oil stolen from American companies which got it out of the ground for them."

I hate this kind of crap, it's stupid, and it's targeted at stupid people who are willing to believe anything told to them.

Some of us, see right through it for the propaganda that it is.

Interesting to note that the people most interested in starting a world-wide religious war between Christendom and Islam, are Muslim extremist terrorists.

To accomplish this, they spend their time spreading lies and misinformation...sort of like your post.

Click.

25 posted on 02/25/2003 6:52:27 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Hank Kerchief
Hank,
Great job. I have been following the Christian plight in the Sudan for several years. It is nasty. I want to go there and give some payback to the moon-god worshippers. I can't yet, so I sent a donation.

Thanks,
Bulldogs
26 posted on 02/25/2003 6:58:26 AM PST by Bulldogs22
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I hate this ....

Cockroaches hate the light. If you hate it, don't read it.

But, please do not pretend your hate is from a concern for Muslims. If you really knew what that hateful ideology does to people, you would be fight it the same as we fight cancer. What kind of religion imposes the death penalty on any who would choose to leave it?

Hank

27 posted on 02/25/2003 7:01:50 AM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Flurry
Flurry you are obviously a fool who just doesn't comprehend that Islam must be destroyed at all cost. Go back to the left wing liberal commie rock you crawled out from under and don't come out. There is a Muslim waiting to get you bubba. All Muslims are evil you nut case wacko Susan Saradon fan.
28 posted on 02/25/2003 7:02:54 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (RW&B)
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To: GirlShortstop


I just pictured a baseball team in burkas wearing metal cleats......what does this mean? LOL!!! I better go to work.
29 posted on 02/25/2003 7:05:34 AM PST by Bulldogs22
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To: GirlShortstop


I just pictured a baseball team in burkas wearing metal cleats......what does this mean? LOL!!! I better go to work.
30 posted on 02/25/2003 7:05:53 AM PST by Bulldogs22
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To: Hank Kerchief
"What kind of religion imposes the death penalty on any who would choose to leave it?"

32:19 And it came to pass, as soon as he came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf, and the dancing: and Moses' anger waxed hot, and he cast the tables out of his hands, and brake them beneath the mount.

32:20 And he took the calf which they had made, and burnt [it] in the fire, and ground [it] to powder, and strawed [it] upon the water, and made the children of Israel drink [of it].

32:21 And Moses said unto Aaron, What did this people unto thee, that thou hast brought so great a sin upon them?

32:22 And Aaron said, Let not the anger of my lord wax hot: thou knowest the people, that they [are set] on mischief.

32:23 For they said unto me, Make us gods, which shall go before us: for [as for] this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.

32:24 And I said unto them, Whosoever hath any gold, let them break [it] off. So they gave [it] me: then I cast it into the fire, and there came out this calf.

32:25 And when Moses saw that the people [were] naked; (for Aaron had made them naked unto [their] shame among their enemies:)

32:26 Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who [is] on the LORD'S side? [let him come] unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.

32:27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, [and] go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.

32:28 And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men.


31 posted on 02/25/2003 7:11:09 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Bulldogs22
I chose the wrong word "Racist". I've paid for it dearly. I guess I should just click away from this thread at the moment.
32 posted on 02/25/2003 7:11:18 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (RW&B)
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To: Hank Kerchief
"But, please do not pretend your hate is from a concern for Muslims."

Not my concern at all, I'm more concerned about the people that you are trying to influence with your lies and distortions.

My concern is for the people in this forum exposed to your crap.

The U.S. government is out finding and eliminating the true enemy, in spite of their religious beliefs.

You want a Holy War?

March yourself into battle with the truth, preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to they who have not been saved.

How many have you brought to The Truth with your tactics?

33 posted on 02/25/2003 7:16:08 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Flurry
No, your OK. Your a patriot with a view.
34 posted on 02/25/2003 7:16:43 AM PST by Bulldogs22
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To: Flurry
I chose the wrong word "Racist". I've paid for it dearly. I guess I should just click away from this thread at the moment.

i don't think so, its an easy thing to confuse. Many islamics can be swayed by the clarion call of a book given word for word from allah. They may not want war with the west, but they will side with their brothers. The strategy provided by the article seems like a good one. Force Islam to decide whether to be among the enemies of the west, divide them and take on the more militant countries one at a time (if possible). Perhaps we will end up with a moderate islam group after a while. And perhaps they will sue to live in peace with us.

35 posted on 02/25/2003 7:22:51 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom
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To: Flurry
There's nothing wrong with stating your point of view, and being passionate about it.

The group-think will simply try to smash you down each time you venture out on your own.

Fight them.

This world is being batted about by monumental forces right now, and these people are very actively spreading their version of the story at every level possible, even here. Do not take anything for granted, and double-check every "fact" thrown at you.

36 posted on 02/25/2003 7:22:55 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
Moderate Islam must take a stand now, or be forever swept away by the upcoming struggle.

The problem with Islam, is that it is a religion with a prophet, but without a Saviour.

37 posted on 02/25/2003 7:24:51 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Flurry
Islam teaches that the world must accept the Islamic faith (convert) or die. Islam is indeed a threat to the West. We must admit the truth. Perhaps the Muslim people you know are not very religious or perhaps their attitude would be very different if they were in a position of authority.
38 posted on 02/25/2003 7:29:40 AM PST by nyconse
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To: nyconse
I know people of many religions who take varying degrees of fanatiscism about their religion. All religious text is subject to interpretation by the reader be they lay or expert. A war of religion would be wrong. A war based on fanatiscism in any religion is doomed to failure. History is full of examples.
39 posted on 02/25/2003 7:40:32 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (RW&B)
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To: *Clash of Civilizatio
Indexing.
40 posted on 02/25/2003 7:42:39 AM PST by denydenydeny
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