Muslim council takes complaints to Bush (Grover Norquist Alert)

Washington Times ^ | February 21, 2003 | Ralph Z. Hallow

[GirlShortstop]

Jael likes to come on to threads and start flame wars...no problem there, I do it myself once in a while, but she likes to push the abuse button once the war is in full bloom.

That's one way of describing it; glass half-empty, half-full I suppose.   I have noticed many threads where the other name is a factor in an obstreperous flamewar.   Rounding out the perspective.   G'night.

[montag813]

I don't see any racism in Gaffney's comments

That's because there is none. Grover Norquist is a disgusting little pipsqueak, and a tratior to boot. I saw him bashing Gaffney on John Gibson's program and Gibson looked amazed at the sheer venom coming from this fat beast. How DARE Norquist criticize Gaffney, who served this country as Dep. Secretary of Defense, while Norquist serves our enemies the Wahhabis--he takes their cash, promotes their radial ideology, and allies himself with terror-funders like Sami Al-Arian, who is one of Norquist's closest friends.

As a consultant I have been typing my fingers raw begging the White House and GOP leaders to push Norquist out of the window, that he was harming the party, weakening the nation, and undermining the President. To no avail. Perhaps NOW they will finally understand the danger they have let into their midst by allowing Norquist such close access to the President's inner sanctum. He is a devil. Cut the cord NOW!

[montag813]

Norquist also formally uninvited Frank Gaffney from what the Washington Post describes as his "Wednesday...weekly lunch for conservative A-listers."

Just as well, the hummus, Halal meat and posters of Arafat probably wouldn't be to Gaffney's liking.

[montag813]

Grover Norquist has been a great defender of taxpayers and a solid conservative strategist for many years. he has written columns in American Spectator and has organized for tax relief and tax cut proposals and referenda. His group has pushed "tax pledges" tat helped win many races for the GOP - think Va.'s Governor race in 1998 (Gilmore) and many others. He is a true conservative.

He is a despicable traitor and Wahabbist whore who couldn't shine Frank Gaffney's shoes.

[TLBSHOW]

Terrorist suspect was part of White House outreach to Muslims

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.jsp?section=today

[TLBSHOW]

Grover Norquist is the problem.......

Palestinian Islamic Jihad leader Sami Al-Arian, arrested this week by the FBI as an alleged mastermind and funder of suicide bombings, was part of the White House's controversial outreach plan to Muslims and Arab-Americans, the Washington Post reports. In a separate story, the Wall Street Journal reports that the alleged terrorists were running influence operations to penetrate the US political system and influence policy.

The news confirms what the Center for Security Policy has warned the Bush administration - first privately and later publicly - for nearly two years: That the architects of the White House's well-meaning Muslim outreach program paid little or no regard to national security issues, and ignored information about alleged extremists, including supporters of terrorism, who had hijacked the administration's initiative.

According to the Post, Al-Arian was invited to the White House as part of an American Muslim Council (AMC) delegation on June 22, 2001: "The meeting was controversial within the White House even before it took place. The group that included Al-Arian was scheduled to be briefed by Vice President Cheney, but Cheney canceled. That morning, the Jerusalem Post had run a front-page article headlined, 'Cheney to host pro-terrorist Muslim group.'"

Al-Arian's arrest under a 50-count federal grand jury indictment is sure to prompt the Secret Service and others to revisit the issue, and to investigate just who has manipulated the White House to allow extremists and terrorists into the presidential compound where they have been treated as legitimate representatives of moderate, non-violent causes.

On Friday, February 21, the Wall Street Journal reported that Al-Arian's arrest "likely will inflame a debate embroiling the Republican Party over efforts to court Muslim Americans." The battle, according to the Journal, is led by conservative activist Grover Norquist, "a close ally of the Bush White House who spent years wooing Muslims through a group he founded called the Islamic Institute," against Center for Security Policy President Frank Gaffney and American Conservative Union President David Keene.

Norquist's Islamic Institute, the Wall Street Journal continued, has received money from "a network of Islamic organizations in Virginia under investigation by federal authorities for suspected ties to terrorism." Meanwhile, Norquist has been a vocal attacker of key provisions of the Bush administration's anti-terrorism legislation proposals, and has led an effort to discredit and undermine Attorney General John Ashcroft.

Insight magazine is reporting that Al-Arian and Norquist have worked together, and that Norquist has gone on record saying he is "proud" to have accepted an award in July 2001 from Al-Arian's National Coalition to Protect Political Freedom (NCPPF), which is described as a legal and political support group for international terrorist organizations.

According to the federal grand jury indictment, Al-Arian and his confederates tried to penetrate the mainstream political system to influence U.S. government counterterrorism policy. The Wall Street Journal states, "the indictment alludes to efforts by the defendants to gain political clout, alleging that they sought 'to obtain support from influential individuals in the United States under the guise of promoting and protecting Arab rights."

Again, the question must be answered: Who invited and cleared Al-Arian and other suspected terrorist supporters into the White House?

Center for Security Policy President Frank Gaffney

[Fred Mertz]

Again, the question must be answered: Who invited and cleared Al-Arian and other suspected terrorist supporters into the White House?

I believe that's a legitimate question. I hope Bush's people clean up this mess so it doesn't happen again.

Thanks for the post TLB.

[Sabertooth]

I hope Bush's people clean up this mess so it doesn't happen again.

Are you trying to say you HATE President Bush? I can SEE your "agenda," you know.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Excellent thread!

I think a saw fragments of that John Gibson show with Gaffney and Norquist and did not understand what was going on!

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[aristeides]

I quite agree with your comments about Norquist and Gaffney. Do you have any idea why Norquist has so many defenders here on FR? I haven't figured out yet why they would want to defend him.

[montag813]

I quite agree with your comments about Norquist and Gaffney. Do you have any idea why Norquist has so many defenders here on FR? I haven't figured out yet why they would want to defend him.

Well, to be honest, I think several people in this thread "defended" Norquist to give him the benefit of the doubt, absent due process, which is fair as far as his role in aiding and abetting terror-funders such as Al-Arian. I believe this evidence is plentiful, if the A.G. is willing to dig into it politically.

A larger issue is Norquist's clear role in furthering the agenda of the radical Wahabbists in Washington. In effect, Grover Norquist is a paid lobbyist for the very people who sent 16 of 19 men to murder 3,000 Americans on Sept. 11th. Whether or not he deserves prison time I will leave up to a jury. As to his place in the Republican party and the White House...he should have none. If the GOP lacked ample reasons to shun Grover Norquist before, there is no excuse now.

[Frankie Fiveangels]

Don't you find it odd that many of the Insight sources Gaffney and others are prone to cite appear in articles written by someone who works, at least part time, for Gaffney himself???

As to the CPAC comment, no one is suggesting that Ali Tulbah was not responsible for the AMC's inclusion in the White House meeting -- what Gaffney said, read the reamrks again for yourself -- was that the AMC got in because of Ali Tulbah and Ali Tulbah's father is Hasan Tulbah of a Houston mosque (or something like that) -- the CLEAR implication was that Ali Tulbah is a national security risk to the United States because -- and only because -- his father is affiliated with a Mosque in Houston.

That sounds like bigotry and racism to me.

[browardchad]

If Norquist had anything to do with Sami Al-Arian, he deserves to be condemned. Al-Arian's been on the FBI's radar for at least seven years.

"When University of South Florida professor Sami Al-Arian e-mailed The Wall Street Journal in response to an op-ed that tied him to Islamic Jihad, he CC'd Norquist."
-- Franklin Foer, The New Republic, November 1, 2001

[montag813]

what Gaffney said, read the reamrks again for yourself -- was that the AMC got in because of Ali Tulbah and Ali Tulbah's father is Hasan Tulbah of a Houston mosque (or something like that) -- the CLEAR implication was that Ali Tulbah is a national security risk to the United States because -- and only because -- his father is affiliated with a Mosque in Houston. That sounds like bigotry and racism to me.

If that was all that Gaffney said I might be persuaded. But it is not. He and others have laid out a compelling case of White House and Party access to Muslim activists who support and/or fund groups recognized by the State Dept. as terrorist organizations.

I frankly don't care about Gaffney, or some Arab hack in the West Wing. Norquist is the issue. And a very disturbing one at that: friendship and support of Sami Al-Arian, the majority of his funding coming from Wahabbist sources, and his introduction of key Muslim clergy to the President who later show up on prior videotapes chanting "Death to America" or "Death to Israel". He is not to be trusted by the White House or GOP. His actions may even warrant criminal charges. Either way, he is someone all Conservatives ought to keep at arm's length at least, and blacklist at best.

[Frankie Fiveangels]

which proves he knew who Norquist was -- but it doesn't prove Norquist knew him or that Norquist knew what he was doing --

[Frankie Fiveangels]

Gaffeny's office also shares space with Norquist -- what does that say about him?

[Frankie Fiveangels]

That's a pretty serious charge -- I hope you can back it up (but I doubt it)

[Luis Gonzalez]

What a catch!

Now all that Toothy has to do is tag that fact at the end of his SPAM, and we can tie Gaffeny to the same stake that we're going to burn Norquist on!

[independentmind]

Do you have any idea why Norquist has so many defenders here on FR?

Follow the money.

[Thorondir]

Has Luis ever met an islamofascist organization he WOULDN'T support?

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