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Liberal-Leaning Radio Network Planned
AP | 2/18/03 | WILL LESTER

Posted on 02/17/2003 11:14:18 PM PST by kattracks

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1 posted on 02/17/2003 11:14:18 PM PST by kattracks
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"Progressives historically don't run in a pack," Rosenstiel added. "There's a kind of independent streak to the left wing in America that there isn't in the right wing."

What a load of crap. If getting your news every day from the New York Times and Tom Brokaw for 20 years isn't running in a pack, then I don't know what is.

2 posted on 02/17/2003 11:17:57 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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"Progressives historically don't run in a pack," Rosenstiel added. "There's a kind of independent streak to the left wing in America that there isn't in the right wing." Yeah, suuuuuure. The left's all a bunch of independent thinkers. That's the ticket...
3 posted on 02/17/2003 11:19:01 PM PST by stands2reason
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Just so we're clear. Conservative radio hosts, from Rush Limbaugh to Dr. Laura to a whole pack of local talk jocks, have all succeeded over the past decade because of slick marketing and more sophisticated programming. Poor naive liberals just never quite caught on. But now that they have, watch out! They'll they'll walk all over Limbaugh in daily share in no time.

Anyone want to venture a few million's worth of capital on that theory?

4 posted on 02/17/2003 11:20:18 PM PST by Timm
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"We want to take an issue and make it funny and engaging," he said. "Our intent is to engage and entertain as a way to enlighten, engage in skit comedy, parody, political satire."

Why bother with facts
5 posted on 02/17/2003 11:21:25 PM PST by ffusco (Omni Gaul Delenda Est!)
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liberals are impervious to facts and logic that's why
6 posted on 02/17/2003 11:23:41 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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A group planning a liberal-leaning radio network says the idea hasn't caught on in previous attempts because it wasn't marketed properly and wasn't entertaining enough.

Funny, that's the same thing they keep saying about "socialism." It's not that it doesn't work, it just hasn't been implemented by the right people yet.

7 posted on 02/17/2003 11:28:19 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Rodney King
If getting your news every day from the New York Times and Tom Brokaw for 20 years isn't running in a pack, then I don't know what is.

Exactly. And many, many other examples come to mind. You know...all those people who get their voting instructions year after year after year from Kweisi Mfume, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton. Or how about the "peace" marchers who show up at a set location on the day they are instructed to recieve a pre-printed protest sign from the local communist party espousing freedom for Mumia and no war in Iraq. Leftists are drones and what these fools who are trying to give them a radio network do not understand is that they already have one. It's called Pacifica, and its on the fringe of society because that is where these people operate and thrive.

8 posted on 02/17/2003 11:32:27 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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Sinton said earlier programs have failed because they were placed in time slots between more conservative programming and weren't entertaining enough.

Wrong

They failed because a multi-hour liberal discussion cannot last for any length of time void of moral substance.

9 posted on 02/17/2003 11:38:41 PM PST by chachacha
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"We want to take an issue and make it funny and engaging," he said. "Our intent is to engage and entertain as a way to enlighten, engage in skit comedy, parody, political satire."

Liberals will dump complex issues into the blender of idiocy, add a dash of delusional self-righteousness, and spoon out the pablum of stupidity to feed the lowest common denominator that comprises their slack-jawed zombie followers.

10 posted on 02/17/2003 11:41:13 PM PST by fiscal_fish
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To: Texas_Jarhead
It's like Mars vs. Venus. Dare to debate the virtue of affirmative action? Racist!
Question the validity of "global warming" and your a planet killer.
Try to be a Christian and you're Narrow-Minded.
11 posted on 02/17/2003 11:41:40 PM PST by ffusco (Omni Gaul Delenda Est!)
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Several years ago one of the local conservative talk stations had a host that was out on vacation or something. So they found some liberal guy to stick on the air for a couple days, and the second he showed up he started inviting all these local democrat hacks and elected officials to espouse left wing crap on the radio. The audience went nuts and flooded him with angry calls, myself included. I got on the air and started arguing with him over a pro-partial birth abortion position he had taken, and, as soon as he knew he was beaten in the argument, he hung up on me! He did the same thing every time somebody came on and got the better of him, which was often. No "goodbye," and no "thanks for the call" - he simply hit disconnect every single time he was losing. Needless to say, after about two days into the week the radio station had found somebody new to fill out the remaining three. They also learned a valuable lesson about their audiences - Left wing radio simply doesn't work in mass markets. The few consumers of that bilge that are out there already get their stuff from the fringe over at NPR and Pacifica. Beyond that it simply does not work.
12 posted on 02/17/2003 11:45:09 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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Funny, that's the same thing they keep saying about "socialism." It's not that it doesn't work, it just hasn't been implemented by the right people yet.

Interesting, however, that our democratic republic has stood the test of time and proven to be the most powerful and free nation history has ever seen, despite the fact that the wrong people have controlled it at times. Give me freedom over socialism anyday.

13 posted on 02/17/2003 11:51:12 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: fiscal_fish
I like your style. Welcome to FR.
14 posted on 02/17/2003 11:51:48 PM PST by WSGilcrest (R)
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To: kattracks
It ain't gonna work no matter what sort of shtick they use. Liberals are not radio-types, they prefer their news spoonfed to them over the telly.
15 posted on 02/17/2003 11:52:26 PM PST by Aracelis
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I wonder if the this network will promote boycots of its own sponsors.
16 posted on 02/18/2003 12:00:28 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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Once again the liberal power brokers are trying to convince themselves that at least half of the listening public is liberal. They still think that the reason they got trounced at mid term was because they didn't get thier message out.The reason they got trounced is because they DID get the message out and the average guy on the street has started paying attention to potential candidates, history, background, CHARACTER and the like. There is a whole generation of voting public that will never back a liberal scheme. The Clinton crows are home and they be roostin'. The Democratic Party had better move rapidly and decisivly to the center right or start digging its own grave. We still haven't gotten our pound of flesh for those dreadfully disgusting eight years of" pass it on to someone else " style of serving.The dems will, and forever should be, identified as the party of Clinton and thus any talk show host espousing real liberal values faces a very pissed audience.Once you get past the attention getting shock line there is no logic to back it up. Just more drivel. I can't wait. Al Franken (Saturday night Live) , PUUULLLEEAASSEE!
17 posted on 02/18/2003 12:04:10 AM PST by ping jockey (Bite me Allah)
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They won't listen anyway, all the libs listen to is either classical and NPR, or stuff like Korn, NWA, Limp Bizkit, Eminem, and other rot-gut. They wouldn't waste time listening to talk shows that they could engage in. So all the audience ends up being conservative and yells at the host.
18 posted on 02/18/2003 12:07:19 AM PST by graycamel (...I forgot to add "Rage Against the Machine".)
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There is no audience out there for liberal claptrap. Few people want to listen to a liberal screaming like a banshee about how immoral he thinks the death penalty is, how stingy he thinks our welfare state is, and how we should turn our country over to the United Nations. Limousine liberals are about to squander tens of millions of dollars on a quixotic power trip instead of political campaigns in 2004. Apparently, dominating universities and the print media isn't enough for these control freaks.
19 posted on 02/18/2003 12:32:34 AM PST by Holden Magroin
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DEMOGRAPHICS - DEMOGRAPHICS - DEMOGRAPHICS

A liberal for profit network cannot possibly succeed for one simple reason - DEMOGRAPHICS.

The only way that liberal talk can stay on the air is if it is supported by the government, like NPR.

Even if they could get as many liberals to listen to Bill Klinton as listen to Rush, they would still lose money.  Think about it.  Who are conservatives?  Conservatives are people who work for a living and call in on their cell phones, while driving their SUV's to a business meeting and therefore have discretionary income.  Who are liberals?  Liberals are primarily deadbeats who live on the dole and call in from their home phone, while waiting for the Bold and the Beautiful on television and have little, if any discretionary income.

Now I ask you, "If you were an advertiser (of anything besides beer) and had to decide where to spend your radio advertising dollars, would you spend it on a program whose listeners were proven buyers with significant discretionary income or on a program whose listeners were primarily strapped for cash and spend what little money they have on a 12-pak of beer every day?"  Think about it...

OK, those are rather radical stereotypes.  But, you get the idea.  To make a profit, every one of the liberal programs would have to have three or four times as many listeners as a conservative program, simply because of the large disparity of buying power of the listeners.  Advertisers who advertise on the liberal programs will expect much lower rates, based on those DEMOGRAPHICS.

End result?...  Failure of the liberal network.

 

20 posted on 02/18/2003 12:33:09 AM PST by Action-America (Keep the Shuttle flyin'!)
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