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Democrat Targets .50 Caliber Revolver for Nationwide Ban
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 2/17/03 | Michael L. Betsch

Posted on 02/17/2003 3:10:24 AM PST by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - A well-known gun maker recently introduced a powerful new hunting revolver that is said to have no equal in terms of firepower.

But within days of introducing the Smith & Wesson 500 Magnum at an industry-wide trade show in Florida, an anti-gun Democrat promised to seek a nationwide ban on the product.

"It's hard for me to rationalize any particular need or purpose" for the 500 Magnum, said Rep. Danny Davis (D-Ill.). "I think guns are made to kill people. That's my opinion."

Asked if he would seek a nationwide ban on the 500 Magnum, Davis replied, "Yes, indeed."

Billed as the "most powerful production revolver in the world today," S&W claims its new 500 Magnum cartridge produces nearly three times the muzzle energy of the .44 Magnum round, one of the most powerful sidearm cartridges available.

But Davis said the .50 caliber revolver, which weighs 72.5 ounces and has an overall length 15-inch has no purpose in society except to cause injury and death to humans, dismissing the manufacturer's claim that it is intended for hunting wild game.

He claimed handguns in general are specifically designed kill fellow human beings, whereas rifles and shotguns are typically relegated to hunting animals.

"You don't go out hunting deer with a revolver," Davis said. "Those of us who live in big, urban centers have a different fear and a different take than some people who may live in different environments."

Davis believes the 500 Magnum has a greater potential for becoming a lethal inner-city status symbol than an effective hunting tool, at least in his congressional district. He added that its high power combined with its concealability could make it the "weapon of choice" for urban gangs.

"If you live in a place like Chicago, and you know the amount of violence that is perpetrated by individuals who grow-up with the idea that having, handling and using a gun is a way-of-life in terms of establishing yourself on the streets or as part of the culture, then I'm afraid that many of these individuals will, in fact, acquire this weapon," Davis said.

"And, of course, the thing will be, 'I've got the most powerful piece on the block,'" he said.

Can a revolver be an assault weapon?

While Smith & Wesson's new five-round revolver is billed by the company as "the most powerful production revolver ever made," it's already being reclassified by some gun control advocates.

"If you've got something that masquerades as a handgun, but has the firepower of a major weapon, you're all at risk," said Illinois State House Majority Leader Barbara Flynn Currie. "This is not the Wild West. It hasn't been for a long time."

Currie compared the 500 Magnum to "military-style assault weapons," although she had no information to base her claims on except for a "tip" received from a reporter.

"I'm not a weapons expert, but it sounded like pretty strong firepower to me," Currie said. "The description I heard was that from a significant range you could fell a large bear."

She dismissed the notion that the 500 Magnum is a hunting revolver, but did equate it with mob violence.

"My concern is whether this kind of weaponry -- it is a handgun as I understand it -- in a crowded, urban area downtown street corners in the midst of people who are angry about something and developing the kind of range that means vandalism and mob action - whether this kind of weapon has any place," Currie said.

Like Davis, Currie said she would examine the prospects of making the sidearm illegal in the state.

"I'm going to look at the technology, as I say, and see if there is any way to specifically keep it from operating in the state of Illinois," Flynn said. "We are also working on efforts to ban military-style assault weapons, and, perhaps there is something about this technology that makes it possible to amend that legislation to include firepower like this."

Anti-gun message said to be flawed

Rifles are most commonly used for hunting, but many gun enthusiasts have also used smaller side arms for hunting, according to Gun Owners of America Executive Director Larry Pratt, who corrected the claim by Davis that hunters don't use revolvers to shoot prey.

"He's quite ignorant because there are people who do," Pratt said. "I do know for a fact that people take large caliber handguns with them to go hunting. And, I have no doubt that if you were lucky enough to get close enough, you could take a deer down with a .44 Magnum, which until now, was the biggest gun around."

As far as Davis' contention that any would-be criminal could easily conceal the 500 Magnum, Pratt said, "Yeah, if you have a trench coat or something like that."

Asked if the 500 Magnum's predecessor, the .44 Magnum faced the same criticisms and threats by politicians upon its introduction in 1955, Pratt said the controversy over Smith and Wesson's latest offering appears to be a sign of the times.

"It was all sort of good clean fun when it was introduced, but we're 20 years further along the gun-hating sensitivity training," Pratt said. "We're talking about the frame of mind that opposes concealed carry by private citizens."

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1 posted on 02/17/2003 3:10:24 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
"Those of us who live in big, urban centers have a different fear and a different take than some people who may live in different environments."

gee thats odd. big urban centers such as DC have almost complete gun control. why is he so afraid of guns in those areas then?????

2 posted on 02/17/2003 3:14:11 AM PST by KantianBurke (The Federal govt should be protecting us from terrorists, not handing out goodies)
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To: kattracks
Another second amendment hater.
3 posted on 02/17/2003 3:14:37 AM PST by Qwerty
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To: kattracks
"I think guns are made to kill people. That's my opinion."

Rep. Danny Davis, Rocket Scientist.

4 posted on 02/17/2003 3:19:32 AM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: kattracks
State House Majority Leader Barbara Flynn Currie compared the 500 Magnum to "military-style assault weapons," although she had no information to base her claims on except for a "tip" received from a reporter.

I really don't need to ask which party she is do I? Based on the source of her information, I say Illinois has bigger problems than this pistol.

5 posted on 02/17/2003 3:30:22 AM PST by bewildered
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To: kattracks
At that size and weight, the piece would hardly be easy to conceal, and would not be favored by criminals.
Of course, this has little to do with the “esteemed” politician’s real reason for wanting a ban.
6 posted on 02/17/2003 3:31:42 AM PST by R. Scott
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To: kattracks


Specifications
Model: 500
Product Code: 163500
Caliber: 500 S&W Magnum®
Capacity: 5 Rounds
Barrel Length: 8-3/8”
Frame Size: X-Frame
Action: Single Action/Double Action
Front Sights: Interchangeable Black Blade
Rear Sights: Micrometer Click Black Blade
Grips: Hogue Rubber-Energy Absorbing
Material: Stainless Steel
Finish: Satin Stainless
Overall Length: 15”
Weight: 72.5 oz.
Other Features:
  • Most Powerful Production Revolver in the World Today
  • Massive 500 S&W Magnum® Cartridge 2600 ft/lb. Muzzle Energy
  • A Hunting Handgun For Any Game Animal Walking
  • Recoil Tamed with Effective Muzzle Compensator
  • Hoque Sorbathane® Recoil Absorbing Grip
  • Internal Lock
UPC: 022188635003

7 posted on 02/17/2003 3:43:22 AM PST by WSGilcrest (R)
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8 posted on 02/17/2003 3:46:00 AM PST by WSGilcrest (R)
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To: kattracks
"You don't go out hunting deer with a revolver,"

I know people that do. Whats this dudes problem?
9 posted on 02/17/2003 3:47:24 AM PST by ezo4
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To: WSGilcrest


Specifications
Product Code: 170231
Caliber: 500 S&W Magnum®
Capacity: 5 Rounds
Frame: X-Frame
Barrel Length: 10.5"
Front Sight: Orange Dovetail Ramp
Rear Sight: Adjustable White Outline
Grips: Hogue Dual Density Monogrip
Material: Stainless Steel
Finish: Glassbead
Overall Length: 18"
Height: 6.5"
Weight Empty: 82.0 oz.
Other Features:
  • Recoil Compensator for Increased Muzzle Control
  • Tuned Performance Center Action
  • Integral Weaver Base for Easy Optics Mounting
  • Increased Velocity and Energy with 10.5" Barrel
  • Flash Chromed Hammer and Trigger for Smooth, Crisp Action
  • Internal Lock
  • Performance Center Gun Rug and Sling included
UPC Code: 022188702316

10 posted on 02/17/2003 3:48:01 AM PST by WSGilcrest (R)
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To: KantianBurke
Just for laughs, Taurus and Ruger ought to unveil prototype of their (ficitonal) .60 or .75 cal revolvers.

Just imagine all those gun grabbers wetting their beds over that!

11 posted on 02/17/2003 3:52:57 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excessive legislation.)
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To: ezoeni
How many gang bangers tot around a .44 Magnum? or a desert eagle? I havent heard of any. And this cant be all that bigger in size. These people are spouting off and dont even know what there talking about.

12 posted on 02/17/2003 3:53:08 AM PST by ezo4
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To: kattracks
The gun grabbers are free make the case to the American people that the Second Amendment is an outmoded notion for another age. They will fail in that contention, but they have that right.

However, if a politician will not bother him or herself to go through the Constitutional process of proposing an Amendment to repeal the Second Amendment, then no part or partial of the Constitution is safe. The "Bill of Rights" becomes the "Bill of Arbitrary Obligations". Instead of a Free Republic founded on inalienable rights of man given by God, we'll have an oligarchy founded by men to convey ever greater obligations upon men, and ever greater power upon the rulers of men.

In other words, this isn't just about guns, folks. After guns will come bans on "offensive" speech (like this), "offensive" organizations (like the NRA), and any "offense" that might threaten a politicians right to rule for life. Stripped of Constitutional constraints upon their law-making (er....law breaking) behavior, no one is safe from the arbitrary Lords of Washington.

I think I trust my gun more than Danny (a.k.a. LFH, or Little Fascist Hitler) Davis and his left-wing buddies.

13 posted on 02/17/2003 3:54:52 AM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: kattracks
Christ on a crutch! Of course guns are made to kill! People, animals, T-72 tanks! Isn't that why governments and other predators want a monopoly on them?

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit the Palace Of Reason:
http://palaceofreason.com

14 posted on 02/17/2003 3:58:02 AM PST by fporretto (Curmudgeon Emeritus, Palace of Reason)
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To: kattracks
"Those of us who live in big, urban centers have a different fear and a different take than some people who may live in different environments."

That's true, but we have just ONE Constitution, Mr. Davis, and it says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
15 posted on 02/17/2003 3:58:35 AM PST by libertylover
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To: kattracks
Bump
16 posted on 02/17/2003 4:01:36 AM PST by chuknospam
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To: kattracks
a handgun as I understand it -- in a crowded, urban area downtown street corners in the midst of people who are angry
ya ... sounds like the right place to have a gun like this
17 posted on 02/17/2003 4:18:44 AM PST by THEUPMAN (#### comment deleted by moderator)
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To: Eagle Eye
What these anti's don't know or do not want to know large bore handguns were common before 1900. They are just anti gun no matter what it is. They hate 25 autos because they are to small they had 50 cals because they are to big they just hate guns.
18 posted on 02/17/2003 4:24:54 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: kattracks
I'm sure that the National Reasonable-regulation Association will stand tall on this issue and spend some of the capital, economic and political, that WE have given it.
19 posted on 02/17/2003 4:30:17 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: metesky
No just Rep. Danny Davis, (DILL)
20 posted on 02/17/2003 4:34:18 AM PST by Oztrich Boy
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