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THEY WENT FOR SLOBO. THEY MUST NOW GO FOR SODOMO. Sean,Rush,Brit,Tony If you're lurkin, heads up!
self | 2/09/03 | MadelineZapeezda

Posted on 02/09/2003 2:54:03 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda

Precedent has been set before, Ladies and Gentlemen.

In 1999 for 78 days, NATO under the direction of Clinton, bombed a tiny sovereign country ,Yugoslavia . We went in FOR HUMANITARIAN REASONS!!!!!!

Confirmation that airstrikes had begun came from NATO Secretary-General Javier Solana in Brussels. Mr Solana said the attacks had a direct purpose: to bring an end to the humanitarian catastrophe now taking place in Kosovo. He put the blame squarely on Yugoslav President Milosevic. "Clear responsibility for the airstrikes lies with President Milosevic, who has refused to stop his violent action in Kosovo and has refused to negotiate in good faith".

This in itself is enough for the UN to go in after Saddam. Another reason:

"When asked on US television if she [Madeline Albright, US Secretary of State] thought that the death of half a million Iraqi children [from sanctions in Iraq] was a price worth paying, Albright replied: "This is a very hard choice, but we think the price is worth it."" -- John Pilger, "Squeezed to Death", Guardian, March 4, 2000

.Well then let's liberate these poor people and put an end to their hardship from such a brutal dictator. Stop the need for sanctions………..makes sense, doesn't it Mad Maddie???

All of this was accomplished with the blessing of NATO, the Congress ,( Senate approves strikes) and the anti-war movement.....you didn't see any large antiwar protests back then, did you????? (With the exception of the Serbian American Orthodox Christian community,of which I include myself, protests were quite small around the country and recieved little or no press. We had no Susan Saradons, and the rest of the hypocrit blowhards on our side. What about the Serb victims, which were plenty? Where were you Sheryl Crow to protest the 'There will be many Civilian Casualty Crowd'???????There were many civilian deaths. Hollyweird was silent and remains silent on the Serb victims.

Could it be now that there is a Republican as President that these same war mongorers have become doves?

The UN was NOT on board when attacks started on Serbia. NATO warplanes launched air strikes against Serbian targets in Yugoslavia Wednesday with the United Nations very much on the sidelines - leading UN officials and legal experts to ponder the legitimacy of the strikes. UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan, speaking within hours of the first strikes by NATO planes on targets in Kosovo, exemplified both sides of the debate: Diplomacy had failed to halt the bloodshed in Kosovo but the UN Security Council should have played a role before any attack.

They are on board now. Take advantage of it.

As bad as some may think Slobo was, (jury is still out on him), Slobo's crimes paled in comparison to that of the Butcher of Bagdad.
Slobo , or his son, never threatened to poison the Americans if America strikes.
Slobo never looked to conquer any lands that weren't in his sovereignty.
Slobo, never gassed thousands of his minority citizens
Slobo hasn't tried to get weapons of mass destruction……
Slobo never sent missiles to Israel or other neighboring countries while fighting his own civil war.

Point of Interest:
While researching my links on a US NATO website
I found most all of Bill Clinton's articles addressing the Kosovo war, months worth, missing .Not Found The requested object does not exist on this server. The link you followed is either outdated, inaccurate, or the server has been instructed not to let you have it.

How convieeeeeeeeenient!!!!!!!!

I'm just sick of the double standard on this issue. Tired of all the opposition and Euroweenies moaning about possible casualties. Talk show hosts, please ask your anti-war crowd to answer these questions.


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(p.s. I'm not a Slobo apologist but if Slobodan was/is an ethnic cleanser then why is Serbia still to this day a multi-ethnic country?????????
1 posted on 02/09/2003 2:54:03 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda
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To: mountaineer
ping!
2 posted on 02/09/2003 3:01:17 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Serbia may be multiethnic, but whereever their forces went, multiethnicity was quickly ended.

How multiethnic was the RSK?

How multiethnic is RS?



be seeing you,

foreign policy wonk


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3 posted on 02/09/2003 3:03:11 PM PST by foreign policy wonk (Take down the House of Saud!)
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To: MikeUmovi
your input here
4 posted on 02/09/2003 3:03:53 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda
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To: foreign policy wonk
but whereever their forces went, multiethnicity was quickly ended..............

Well Wonk.....Then explain why most Serbs were cleansed from the Krajina region and why there are so few in Kosovo???????????

5 posted on 02/09/2003 3:06:57 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Why do so many criticizing the NATO attack on Serbia use the following phrase -- "bombed a tiny sovereign country"?

Gee, last I checked, most wars/fights occur between sovereign countries. Does the use of the word "sovereign" have some hidden definition of "not to be attacked"? Nazi Germany was a sovereign country. Imperial Japan was a sovereign country. Taliban Afghanistan was a sovereign country. That's what wars are -- they are fights between "sovereign" countries.


Oh, and you're most definitely a Slobo apologist.

6 posted on 02/09/2003 3:08:21 PM PST by LenS
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To: MadelineZapeezda
What does that have to do with Serb cleansing of non-Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia?

Sorry, I don't follow.



be seeing you,

foreign policy wonk


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7 posted on 02/09/2003 3:09:24 PM PST by foreign policy wonk (Take down the House of Saud!)
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Why is it that the left is only OK with tackling right-wing tyrants? When it comes to left-wing tyrants, they always have some apology, i.e. "Yeah, Castro is a dictator, but gosh, isn't it wonderful that 100% of Cubans can read."
8 posted on 02/09/2003 3:09:55 PM PST by Inkie
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Simple. The Serbs ethnically cleansed the Krajina first. Then they got their arse kicked by the Croatian Army. The Serbs in the Krajina feared that the returning Croatians might treat them as they had treated the Croatians. So they fled. I always love how Slobo-lovers rewrite history and conveniently forgot how they started events. If you were a Nazi, you would be complaining about how the Soviets kicked all the ethnic Germans out of Russia and Eastern Europe at the end of WWII.

Same thing in most of Kosovo, except that the Serbian efforts to chase all the Kosovars out was stopped before it could be completed.

9 posted on 02/09/2003 3:13:22 PM PST by LenS
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Personally I'm not too thrilled with the idea of trying him in The Hague. I'd much rather see him hang in the courtyard of Ft. Leavenworth.
10 posted on 02/09/2003 3:15:24 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: LenS
Oh, and you're most definitely a Slobo apologist.

Slobo is a thug....Serbia's thug...and should be tried for his crimes by the Serbian people, not some kangaroo court.

11 posted on 02/09/2003 3:16:04 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda
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To: TwoStep; broomhilda
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12 posted on 02/09/2003 3:18:45 PM PST by christie (The Clinton Legacy Cookbook is here!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: MadelineZapeezda
This is my favorite question when discussing the possibility of war with Iraq with liberals, What is the difference between using military force in Kosovo and in Iraq? Their typical answer is, but Iraq is all about oil. Then you tell them that Clinton's friends were thinking about putting a pipeline across Kosovo, but in the case of Iraq we could have all the oil we wanted if we lifted the sanctions and the liberals just look dumbfounded. It's amusing.
13 posted on 02/09/2003 3:23:52 PM PST by Eva
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Liberals only cheer for military conflict when the U.S. has nothing to gain by becoming involved (Kosovo, Somalia, Bosnia, Haiti...).

Once OUR interests are at stake, they're vocal opponents.

14 posted on 02/09/2003 3:30:12 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Where liberals lead, misery follows.)
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To: LenS
The Serbs ethnically cleansed the Krajina first.

The only people who were fellow travelers with the nazis were Croatians and the SSunits from Bosnia who were Muslims. Therefore you should know from whence you speak. Explain this if you will; Before World War II there were more than 1 million Serbs living in the Krajina. At the start of the nineties there were perhaps a half million. Now there are only tens of thousands. Who invented ethnic cleansing and who is achieving their goal of ethnic purity?

The fact remains that all these problems were internal to Yugoslavia. Saddam Hussein has invaded another country, persecuted his own people and struck a country with missles with whom he was not at war. In light of 9/11 and the damage this country sustained, he and his ilk are not far at any time from the terrorists, even if they are not implicated.

15 posted on 02/09/2003 3:31:04 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda
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To: MadelineZapeezda
It was a war to carve up Kosovo for the Muslims. So it was very cool as far as the UN was concerned. You really think stinking France and Germany objected? Did any Mulsim nation object?
16 posted on 02/09/2003 3:35:13 PM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: MadelineZapeezda
There were never 1 million Serbs in the Krajina region.

If you could prove this, I'd appreciate it.

The high tide population wise was 300,000 in the Krajina, and 300,000 in the rest of Croatia between 1981-1991.

I'll be waiting for proof.



be seeing you,

foreign policy wonk


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17 posted on 02/09/2003 3:38:04 PM PST by foreign policy wonk (Take down the House of Saud!)
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To: foreign policy wonk
If you do not see what ethnic cleansing of Serbs has to do with ethnic cleansing of others, you are not an FP Wonk. Look at it this way. As soon as the first person was cleansed all sides were trying to figure out a way to let the other person pay the price for their ethnicity. I've said this many times before, the war in Yugo was, at the ground level about fear and making sure "what happened last time doesn't happen again."

How else can you explain the FACT that in my part of the US tomorrow there will be a car going to work carrying a Serb, Muslim, and Croatian refugee from the Bosnian civil war? To me its easy--no fear.

18 posted on 02/09/2003 3:44:23 PM PST by MikeUmovi
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To: MikeUmovi
I was trying to correct miss madeline's opinion that Slobo had his hands clean of ethnic cleansing.

I'm not disputing the fact that all sides did it.

She made a claim, and I debunked it.



be seeing you,

foreign policy wonk


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19 posted on 02/09/2003 3:49:02 PM PST by foreign policy wonk (Take down the House of Saud!)
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To: foreign policy wonk
Meant to say Krajina/Croatia area. My apologies.

From the Yugoslav SurveyXXXII March 1990-91 the Serb were 700,000 with an additional 400,000 Yugoslavs.

YOUR MISSING THE POINT, IF SLOBO WAS/IS A THUG....THEN SADDAM IS/WAS/AND ALWAYS WILL BE A MONSTER!!!!!!!!

20 posted on 02/09/2003 4:13:05 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda
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