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The GOP Lock [Congress will be in GOP hands for next decade, and become even more conservative]
Enterprise Online ^ | March 2003 Issue | Grover Norquist

Posted on 02/08/2003 11:53:15 AM PST by John Jorsett

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1 posted on 02/08/2003 11:53:15 AM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
--not if they and the Administration continue their spendthrift ways and "deficit" us into financial oblivion--
2 posted on 02/08/2003 12:03:12 PM PST by rellimpank
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To: John Jorsett
From Mr. Norquist lips to GOD's ears.
3 posted on 02/08/2003 12:03:44 PM PST by GailA (stop PAROLING killers Throw Away the Keys http://keasl5227.tripod.com/)
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To: John Jorsett
I hope so. I also hope California sees the light too.
5 posted on 02/08/2003 12:09:38 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: John Jorsett; *Bush Doctrine Unfold; randita; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; okie01; socal_parrot; ...
This I like. Would allow W to really clean up the leftovers from Clinton and secure W's legacy!

His real job is going to be Foreign Policy!

I think I will put this on the reading list!

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6 posted on 02/08/2003 12:15:23 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam ( Bush is thinking about it ) and then what about Germany and France?)
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To: guaguanco
I think the republicans will control the house, senate and white house for the forseeable future! Maybe 20 years or so.

Maybe, but what I'd expect after a time is that political Darwinism would kick in, and the Democrats would move to the right in order to start winning some elections. That assumes, of course, that they jettison the grabbag of Socialist loons who keep trying to tug them further to the left (admittedly an iffy assumption).

7 posted on 02/08/2003 12:15:51 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: guaguanco
What's to stop them? Massive, illegal immigration which neither party cares to put the brakes on. Entitlement spending which neither party wants to curtail. A dumbed down populace which our one-party publik education system still turns out in droves. Angry minorities who think rich, white conservatives, not their plantation overseers, are the enemy. Rich, white conservatives who would rather hide behind the fig leaf of free trade rather than hire or send business to their fellow Americans.
8 posted on 02/08/2003 12:18:30 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: rellimpank
--not if they and the Administration continue their spendthrift ways and "deficit" us into financial oblivion--

Ah yes the comment from the Buchanan "wing" of the Republican party.

Oh that's right Buchanan left almost four years ago to consummate the marriage with Lenora Fulani of the Reform party and now is kissing Bill Press's butt on MSNBC, never mind.

Take a look at this political cartoon,

Pat is the poodle.

9 posted on 02/08/2003 12:19:08 PM PST by Dane
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To: John Jorsett

Don't hold your breath.

10 posted on 02/08/2003 12:21:29 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Vigilanteman
Massive, illegal immigration which neither party cares to put the brakes on. Entitlement spending which neither party wants to curtail. A dumbed down populace which our one-party publik education system still turns out in droves. Angry minorities who think rich, white conservatives, not their plantation overseers, are the enemy. Rich, white conservatives who would rather hide behind the fig leaf of free trade rather than hire or send business to their fellow Americans.

All that was present before the Republicans took the majority.

What else ya got?

11 posted on 02/08/2003 12:23:05 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: John Jorsett
Okay and... what does it mean?

Even larger deficits? Even bigger government? Even more federal intrusion into our kids lives (as in don't leave other people's kids behind)? Even faster growing federal spending? Even more money spent on all kinds of foreign initiatives? Less personal freedom? More of our jobs fleeing to China? More trade deficits resulting in a larger chunk of our country being owned by foreigners? Less effort in stopping illegal immigration? More efforts to 'legalize' these uninvited intruders? More 'bilingualism', 'multiculturalism'?

Boy, I'm so happy the GOPs are going to be in control. Come to think of it, the Demos would be even worse.

12 posted on 02/08/2003 12:25:29 PM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: Dog Gone
All that was present before the Republicans took the majority.

What else ya got?

No, before the GOPs replaced the traitor Demos as the 'majority', there were budget surpluses instead of deficits, the government was spending less, many jobs now in China were in the country, many illegals now in the country were still in Mexico or Haiti, the feds were spending less on education and we were all freer.

Don't worry, I'm not blaming the GOPs for doing what the Demos wouldn't. It's just that it's now their turn to doing it.

13 posted on 02/08/2003 12:29:47 PM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: Dane
That is a great cartoon.
14 posted on 02/08/2003 12:37:10 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Don't worry, I'm not blaming the GOPs for doing what the Demos wouldn't. It's just that it's now their turn to doing it.

And I don't worry that you are and always be a malcontent.

But what the hey you gotta instinctively blame someone, or you don't have a life.

Huh, just like Pat Buchanan.

15 posted on 02/08/2003 12:37:16 PM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
#9

OW! (Hehehehe)

5.56mm

16 posted on 02/08/2003 12:42:08 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Dane
--I completely fail to see what the cartoon has to do with the fact that Republican control of the House didn't slow down spending and now control of the Senate hasn't either--

--back in the days of the Gingrich revolution we still heard of the elimination of the Departments of Energy, Education and Transportation as possibilities, for example--no more--

17 posted on 02/08/2003 12:42:13 PM PST by rellimpank
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To: Dane
Perhaps you can correct me. Is the budged deficit smaller (oh, we used to have a surplus). Is the trade deficit smaller? Do we have fewer illegal immigrants under GOP's courageous defense of our borders? Does the government spend less? Do you feel freer in your own country today?

Do you care to point to the GOP's achievments?

18 posted on 02/08/2003 12:43:59 PM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: GailA
From Mr. Norquist lips to GOD's ears.

That's blasphemous.
God wouldn't have anything to do with somebody as mercenary as Norquist.

19 posted on 02/08/2003 12:44:49 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: guaguanco
"I think the republicans will control the house, senate and white house for the forseeable future! Maybe 20 years or so. What's to stop them? They're pushing all the right buttons and the democrat traitors are hated throughout the land. A glorious time for the USA!!!"

They will be stopped by the same things that have stopped them before. These are, in rough order of likelyhood:

A. Revolt of the Base. This got Bush 1 out of office when conservatives felt there was nothing in it for them. While Bush2 is unlikely to make the same mistake other R's very well may. Souter, the broken tax pledge, the assault weapons import ban .. all of these were Bush1 issues that led to his demise. Let's put up some litmus tests for Bush2 and the Rs on issues that resonate with the base.

Continue and increase tax cuts.
Reduce the size of FedGov by elimination of depts.
Sunseting of gun laws, no new gun laws, repeal of gun laws.
Appoint conservative judges
End affirmative action as a federal program
Prosectue Illegal Immigration
Reduce legal immigration

B. Out of Control Spending .. remember this was the issue that got Clinton into office. Democrats will continue to claim to be "the party of fiscal responsibility". They are, at least, willing to tax us to pay for their redistributionist schemes. The R's lack the balls to actually cut and gut programs, but are required to oppose tax increases, thus resulting in deficits.

C. Third party insurgencey (probably trumped up by leftists) splits the Conservative Base.
Remember it was Ross Perot who gave Clinton his first term plurality win. The failure of "Rs" to addresss items in "A" opens the door. The IMMIGRATION ISSUE is the biggest disconnect between the more Globalist R party of D.C. and the base, and could provide all the room needed for a Conservative third party to split the vote.

D. Lack of attractive candidates. Bob Dole may be gone buy "Liddy" is back, now with a Senate seat. Who's on deck for '08. Certainly another Bush or Dole is not going to cut it. Elections are won in part on this sick criteria of personality as imagined via TV. Typically Dems are better at this. Like it or not Hillary appeals to a lot of women, who are 50+% of the electorate.

E. War weariness. People may get tired of being constantly under "Orange Alert" and vote for a candidate offering a less muscular foreign policy, much as they did with Jimmy Carter in 1976. This candidate is unlikely to be a Republican.

F. Scandal. Cost Nixon, Ford and Gore the election. Hurt badly both Carter and Bush1 (Reagan's Iran Contra). Obviously the opposition is trying hard to find, invent, create, or trap those in power into a scandal. This effects entire parties, not just the Pres. vis: Cliton and Dems post 1994.

G. Death Has not effected the Presidency since Kennedy, but historically has changed the course of history rather more than since 1965.

Those are some of the reasons I can think of why I would not consider two years of Bush a predetermined forerunner to 20 years of Republican rule.

20 posted on 02/08/2003 12:47:09 PM PST by Jack Black
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