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Help: I Need Some Moral Reasons Why We Should Not Legislate Religious Morality
self ^ | 2-7-2003 | self

Posted on 02/07/2003 7:21:09 PM PST by Notwithstanding

I got shafted and need to argue this side in a debate. HELP!


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1 posted on 02/07/2003 7:21:09 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
Well, you could bring in libertarian issues, or you could approach from the adult perspective (personal reponsibility). Mostly it depends on how you want to attack the issue.....
3 posted on 02/07/2003 7:22:38 PM PST by Maigrey (Part of the Gonzo News Service)
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To: AKA Elena; american colleen; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Aristophanes; ArrogantBustard; Askel5; ...
please help me
4 posted on 02/07/2003 7:24:00 PM PST by Notwithstanding (Satan is real. So are his minions.)
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To: Notwithstanding
I'll help you with this one.
5 posted on 02/07/2003 7:24:02 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: Notwithstanding
Because a free society implies a diverse system of religious and philosophical beliefs. The only essential common core to allow such a society of diverse individuals to co-exist is protection against aggression.

None may assault, murder, rob, defraud. But all other mutually voluntary associations are permitted.

6 posted on 02/07/2003 7:24:14 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: Notwithstanding
Whose Religious Morality should we legislate?
7 posted on 02/07/2003 7:24:57 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Notwithstanding
First, you have to realize that you cannot argue for any type of morality without it being a feature of some kind of religious morality. You could argue that religious practices should not be required via law; but it would be absurd for anyone to argue that the state shouldn't legislate against murder because a prohibition against murder exists in almost every religion in almost all places and times.
8 posted on 02/07/2003 7:25:42 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Seemingly it is that of the Majority.
9 posted on 02/07/2003 7:26:00 PM PST by Notwithstanding (Satan is real. So are his minions.)
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To: Notwithstanding
You mean like laws against murder?
10 posted on 02/07/2003 7:28:31 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: aruanan
it would be absurd for anyone to argue that the state shouldn't legislate against murder because a prohibition against murder exists in almost every religion in almost all places and times.

It isn't "the state." Freedom loving individuals don't want to be murdered. They jointly agree to a system of self-protection. It has nothing to do with "religion." It is self-survival.

11 posted on 02/07/2003 7:28:35 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: Aunt Polgara
Didn't Fr. Fagothey have something to say about this?
12 posted on 02/07/2003 7:29:04 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Notwithstanding
1) The Taliban

2) The Church of England

3)The Roman Catholic Church

4) Morality via religion comes from a change within not by reluglations and laws


13 posted on 02/07/2003 7:30:18 PM PST by Rocketman
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14 posted on 02/07/2003 7:30:32 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Notwithstanding
Suppose that, due to a tragic set of circumstances, the Taliban Party candidates sweep Congress and the presidency. If the government is free to legislate morality, I think we can agree the resulting legislating would greatly suck. Only two things would keep such a government from enacting all sorts of bad laws: the Second Amendment, and a general prohibition against the government legislating morality. Only the latter option is nonviolent. (And, given that the Hildebeast was elected, can you be so sure the Taliban party can't possibly win?)
15 posted on 02/07/2003 7:31:21 PM PST by coloradan
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To: Notwithstanding
No problem! here's a few reasons why its a bad idea: The Taliban, Iran, Syria,Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan.
16 posted on 02/07/2003 7:31:26 PM PST by Nateman
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To: ConservativeMan55
I have to argue that the morals laws based upon the majority religion are NOT moral.

Opponents will argue the oppostie, of course.

The context we have been given are conscientious objector and religious use of illegal drugs Supreme Court cases.

17 posted on 02/07/2003 7:31:30 PM PST by Notwithstanding (Satan is real. So are his minions.)
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To: Notwithstanding
Because our form of Gov't is not a religious theocracy?
18 posted on 02/07/2003 7:31:54 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Notwithstanding
All laws are based on morality - from traffic laws to laws against murder.

Religion is just another name for a defining worldview and is no more or less relevent from a secular law point-of-view than something pulled out of Psychology Today.

Religious morality is a legitimate basis for laws.

19 posted on 02/07/2003 7:32:46 PM PST by keithtoo
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To: Notwithstanding
#1 Reason, God gave man free will.
20 posted on 02/07/2003 7:32:47 PM PST by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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