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Time to kick the tires & light the fires, folks- terrorism gathers across the World...
various links and websites | 02-07-03 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 02/07/2003 2:31:29 PM PST by backhoe

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Time constraints and technical problems forced me to cut this short... for the full story, go here:

 
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DUBOB 11- more tales from the Dark UnderBelly Of the Beast...
various links and websites | 01-31-03 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

start at the last and go backwards- scroll back far enough to links to older versions and read about the IRA, FARC, and other players in this drama.

1 posted on 02/07/2003 2:31:29 PM PST by backhoe
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To: backhoe
You da man, backhoe. So much info, so little time.
2 posted on 02/07/2003 2:34:08 PM PST by Vigilantcitizen (Teach a kid about firearms.)
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To: viligantcitizen
Thanks for looking... like your tagline, too!
3 posted on 02/07/2003 2:44:13 PM PST by backhoe (I learned to shoot when I was six...)
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To: backhoe
Bravo, again! Hey, you know a link here on FR to Woodward's book excerpt where state sponsors of terrorism were being discussed with Tenet and.. Cheney? where the main quote was 'because we're not ready to do anything about it yet'?
4 posted on 02/07/2003 2:49:45 PM PST by txhurl
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To: backhoe
Amazing how you compiled this, kudos. Also interesting to see the prelude to Powell at the UN and todays raise in the terror alert.
5 posted on 02/07/2003 3:00:41 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: backhoe
Great job!
6 posted on 02/07/2003 3:03:42 PM PST by kassie (God Bless and Protect Our Military)
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To: txflake
Thanks for looking... re:

Hey, you know a link here on FR to Woodward's book excerpt

I know what you are talking about, but I don't have a link, darn it!

7 posted on 02/07/2003 3:08:54 PM PST by backhoe ("Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...")
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To: JustPiper
Also interesting to see the prelude to Powell at the UN and todays raise in the terror alert.

Yes, you will see a definite ramp-up here and across the world.

8 posted on 02/07/2003 3:13:33 PM PST by backhoe (Terrorist & "national liberation" groups are All interlinked... read your history, and learn...)
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To: kassie
Thank you for looking.
9 posted on 02/07/2003 3:21:50 PM PST by backhoe (The 1990's will be remembered as "The Decade of Fraud(s)..." ( Clintons, Dot-Bombs, Oslo... ))
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To: backhoe
MASSIVE AND WONDERFUL JOB.

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SWEAT.

There's this interesting msg just received earlier today to add to your ponderings.





THIS IS PRIMARILY A SPIRITUAL BATTLE AND CAN BE WON WITH PRAYER

SPECIAL NOTICE SENT OUT:

The Conflict With Iraq

Bob Jones & Paul Keith Davis

Over the past several weeks, there has been continual conversation, both publicly and within Christian circles, concerning the issue of Iraq and the appropriate spiritual approach on this crucial matter. It continues to be our belief, established through visions, dreams and communications from the Lord while in prayer, that it would be premature for our nation to take Iraq to full war. Although we are presently experiencing skirmishes and minor confrontations, as opposed to a full-blown war, time remains for the circumstances to be altered by the Kingdom of light, through prayer.

As we have stated in prior articles and newsletters, this is predominantly a spiritual issue and therefore can be influenced through prayer, as was the presidential election. It is our belief that the ancient spirit identified as the Prince of Persia (as described in the book of Daniel) is attempting to withstand a divine purpose as he did with Daniel. In Daniel 10 we discover the prophet seeking the Lord for insight and direction when he encountered an angelic messenger who was withstood by the prince of Persia for 21 days.

This prevailing evil spirit is presently attempting to withstand divine mandates from reaching the place of their fulfillment. This is evidenced in the elevated terrorism of the last two years and the conflict with Iraq. It is our belief that a war with Iraq will hinder the full birthing of the revelation of Kingdom realities in this hour.

Furthermore, the Holy Spirit has revealed to us and a number of other prophetic voices, that a preemptive strike with Iraq would substantially affect the nation of Israel and adversely impact our economy. Most important of all, it has been our revelation that the "ark of the Covenant" would not go with our armies. This is strictly a symbolic expression to indicate that this war would not have the blessings of Heaven as did the Gulf War in the early '90s.

Clearly, that confrontation had incredible results with very little loss of life on the part of our Armed Forces. Many reports are on record of incredible grace and intervention by the Lord throughout this encounter. That was more the result of the Lord's blessings than our superior military enforcement. We have also received reports from other reliable ministry sources that there is a remnant Christian Church in Iraq who would suffer substantially in the event of war or the forceable overthrow of Saddam.

The record is clear, the actions of Saddam Hussein are cruel, evasive and ungodly. His actions cannot go unchecked. However, a war in Iraq will affect many more than just this one individual and his immediate leadership circle. There are spiritual ramifications with multiple implications. According to the example of Moses, Amos, and others, intercession can change pronunciations of judgments and adversarial designs.

Mercy triumphs over judgment. (James 2:13)

It is our firm belief that we should continue to intercede and ask the Lord for the release of His perfect resolution in dealing with Saddam, without having to involve war.

We believe we have the authority to pray for the removal of his evil leadership and regime by means other than war. Now is not the time to reduce our prayers, but increase them. War at this time would have multiple detrimental effects upon our nation, naturally and spiritually, along with Israel.

Our earnest prayer should be for peace rather than war. In our revelations, we are continuing to see the call of the intercessors to take their place on the wall to petition Heaven for divine intervention. Until the matter has actually come to full fruition, there is always time for intervention. We cannot take a passive position at this on this critical issue.

On your walls, O Jerusalem, I have appointed watchmen; all day and all night they will never keep silent. You who remind the LORD, take no rest for yourselves; And give Him no rest until He establishes and makes Jerusalem a praise in the earth. (Isaiah 62:67)

This is strictly the way we have seen this issue. There seems to be many justifiable political reasons why war would be appropriate. However, if the position of restraint is correct, we must trust the Lord's wisdom and the revelation He gives.

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10 posted on 02/07/2003 3:33:36 PM PST by Quix (21st FREEPCARD FINISHED--going to get back to it soonish)
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Thanks, Quix... I well remember a billboard from my childhood-- "Get Right with God"- recent events seem to point to that being a good idea for everyone.
11 posted on 02/07/2003 3:39:11 PM PST by backhoe
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To: backhoe
Lots of great info.
Thanks for putting this together.
12 posted on 02/07/2003 5:59:07 PM PST by sistergoldenhair (Don't be a sheep. People hate sheep. They eat sheep.)
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To: backhoe; The Great Satan
OK, I defer to the master. Link us the Woodward Tenet/Iraq/Anthrax scenario where we're 'not ready to do anything about it yet?'
13 posted on 02/07/2003 6:40:56 PM PST by txhurl
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To: backhoe
Semper Fidelis all, Lets Roll


14 posted on 02/07/2003 7:05:15 PM PST by Marines981 ("Rattle the big dogs cage and get your a** bit")
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To: txflake
Link us the Woodward Tenet/Iraq/Anthrax scenario where we're 'not ready to do anything about it yet?'

Bush at War has the goods from Woodward.

Also, click on my moniker for a full briefing. Consider it "For Your Eyes Only" -- take a cyanide pill after you've read it.

15 posted on 02/07/2003 11:17:47 PM PST by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: sistergoldenhair
Thanks for looking!
16 posted on 02/08/2003 2:37:18 AM PST by backhoe (The 1990's will be remembered as "The Decade of Fraud(s)..." ( Clintons, Dot-Bombs, Oslo... ))
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To: Marines981
Thanks for the good graphic.
17 posted on 02/08/2003 3:09:31 AM PST by backhoe (Has that "Clinton Legacy" made you feel safer yet?)
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To: The Great Satan
Thanks for providing the relevant link.
18 posted on 02/08/2003 3:44:04 AM PST by backhoe (Has that "Clinton Legacy" made you feel safer yet?)
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To: The Great Satan; backhoe
Got link. Thanks, Beelzebub!
19 posted on 02/08/2003 4:45:45 PM PST by txhurl
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Here's what I'm flapping about: this Woodward book published last year:

"Many believe Saddam is involved," [Bush] said. "That's not an issue for now. If we catch him being involved, we'll act. He probably was behind this in the end."

They turned to the hot topic of anthrax. The powder in the letter mailed to Senator Daschle's office had been found to be potent, prompting officials to suggest its source was likely an expert capable of producing the bacteria in large amounts. Tenet said, "I think it's AQ" -- meaning al Qaeda. "I think there's a state sponsor involved. It's too well thought out, the powder's too well refined. It might be Iraq, it might be Russia, it might be a renegade scientist," perhaps from Iraq or Russia.

Scooter Libby, Cheney's chief of staff, said he also thought the anthrax attacks were state sponsored. "We've got to be careful on what we say." It was important not to lay it on anyone now. "If we say it's al Qaeda, a state sponsor may feel safe and then hit us thinking they will have a bye because we'll blame it on al Qaeda."

"I'm not going to talk about a state sponsor," Tenet assured them.

"It's good that we don't," said Cheney, "because we're not ready to do anything about it."

20 posted on 02/08/2003 4:52:15 PM PST by txhurl
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