[pariah]

Regarding, if Bin Laden really did have some link to Iraq, which he doesn't, that would change things.

This shows how open-minded you are to concrete evidence. What is your opinion of the Al Queda chem/bio training camp in Iraq, overseen by Iraqi intelligence and used to train AQ terrorists for operations all over the world? This is a war on terror, not simply on OBL, or any single person, country or entity. Growing and irrefutable evidence indicates that Iraq, NK, AQ and other countries and terrorist organizations are working hand-in-glove to destabilize western civilization (each for their own unique objectives, true enough). What will you say when this short war is over and ALL the evidence of Saddam's murdering, lying, banned weapons and links to various terrorist organizations is laid out in the glaring light of day? No more wiggle room then. Will you apologize for calling President Bush 'stupid'? Will you get on board and support our efforts, or will you prefer to cant and carp from the sidelines?

[ValenB4]

I would apologize and admit being wrong. No shame in that. Nobody has a monopoly on the truth. What would it take to get you to change your mind? But I am very skeptical of this sort of thing, like the Gulf of Tonkin, the Maine as an excuse by the government to get the people riled up for war. I'll always believe Bush is stupid because he is. However, a stupid man can do great things and be a great president. The left was wrong about Reagan, who was a great man of thought and ideas. Bush is a decisive leader with a strong moral code, but not a man man of ideas. He's a decent fellow and I like him. But let's not pretend he's something he isn't.