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THE UNKNOWN - The C.I.A. and the Pentagon take another look at Al Qaeda and Iraq.
The New Yorker ^ | 2/3/03

Posted on 02/03/2003 6:47:18 AM PST by areafiftyone

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1 posted on 02/03/2003 6:47:18 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone; Admin Moderator
Who is the author of this article?
2 posted on 02/03/2003 7:03:42 AM PST by tallhappy
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bump for later
3 posted on 02/03/2003 7:07:06 AM PST by woofie (old age aint for sissies)
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To: tallhappy
JEFFREY GOLDBERG
4 posted on 02/03/2003 7:14:17 AM PST by areafiftyone (The U.N. is now officially irrelevant! The building is for Sale!!!)
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To: tallhappy
Jeffrey Goldberg
5 posted on 02/03/2003 7:24:46 AM PST by billhilly (On fire for BIG AL SHARPTON)
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To: areafiftyone
It's all about Salman Pak, as far as I'm concerned.

Let's roll.

6 posted on 02/03/2003 7:31:10 AM PST by Snake65
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To: areafiftyone
bump
7 posted on 02/03/2003 8:44:00 AM PST by Lexington Green
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To: areafiftyone
The following lawsuit is on Find Law

Ashton, et al. v. al Qaeda, et al.: Complaint (PDF) Lawsuit claiming a 9/11 link between Iraq and al Qaeda. Sept. 3, 2002

The file is in slow loading .pdf format, but it is an interesting read. Some excerpts:

39. Upon information and belief, there have been numerous meetings between IRAQI Intelligence agents and high-ranking AL QAEDA terrorists to plan terror attacks. Once such meeting occurred in 1992, when ZAWAHIRI (EGYPTIAN ISLAMIC JIHAD leader and AL QAEDA officer) met with IRAQI INTELLIGENCE agents in Baghdad, IRAQ over several days. An IRAQI serving with the TALIBAN who fled Afghanistan in the fall of 2001, was captured in Kurdistan and has corroborated this meeting and confirmed that IRAQI contacts with AL QAEDA began in 1992.

During the early 1990s, Sudan’s Sheikh Hassan al-Tourabi of the Islamic National Front arranged meetings between BIN-LADEN and IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials. BIN LADEN met with FARUQ AL-HIJAZI, an IRAQI INTELLIGENCE agent in the Sudan who would later head IRAQI INTELLIGENCE for SADDAM HUSSEIN. BIN LADEN again met with IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officers in 1994 and 1995 in the Sudan. At these meetings, BIN-LADEN and IRAQI INTELLIGENCE secret service director FARUQ AL-HIJAZI agreed to work together on terrorist projects directed against the U.S.

55. From 1996 until 2001, BIN LADEN with the financial and logistical support of OMAR and others in the TALIBAN and IRAQ and IRAQI INTELLIGENCE, created, supplied and operated at least five training camps in order to create an “Islamic Foreign Legion” capable of attacking their enemies throughout the world. These camps trained men from 15 nations in guerrilla warfare, terrorist activities, rocket warfare, demolition and bombing, including the use of mines, grenades, TNT, nitroglycerine and plastic explosives. Classes were also given in “how to kill a policeman” and “traps, murder and terrorist moves.”

57. In February 1997, BIN LADEN publicly expressed his support for IRAQ in its conflict with the United States stating:

“The hearts of the Muslims are filled with hatred towards the United States of America and the American president for American conduct towards IRAQ.”
59. IRAQ upon information and belief, agreed to supply arms to AL QAEDA and provide AL QAEDA with access to and training in the use of chemical and biological weapons and agreed to instruct AL QAEDA terror trainers at its Salman Pak camp in Baghdad that contained a Boeing 707 used to practice hijacking. IRAQ also agreed to supply AL QAEDA terrorists with new identities and passports from Yemen and the United Arab Emirates.

60. AL QAEDA agreed to provide protection from political opponents to IRAQ and SADDAM HUSSEIN, and to commit assassinations and other acts of violence to create instability in regions of IRAQ, particularly Kurdistan, to assist the regime of SADDAM HUSSEIN. AL QAEDA further agreed to provide trained terrorists, assassins and martyrs to carry out terror attacks in concert with IRAQ against their common enemies, including the United States.

64. Between April 25 and May 1, 1998, two of BIN LADEN’s senior military commanders, MUHAMMAD ABU-ISLAM and ABDULLAH QASSIM, visited Baghdad for discussions with SADDAM HUSSEIN’s son -- QUSAY HUSSEIN -- the “czar” of IRAQI INTELLIGENCE.

65. QUSAY HUSSEIN’s participation in those meetings highlights the importance of the talks in both symbolic and practical terms. Upon information and belief, as a direct result of these meetings, IRAQ again made commitments to provide training, intelligence, clandestine Saudi border crossings, financial support and weapons and explosives to AL QAEDA.

66. IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials met with BIN LADEN in Afghanistan several more times. A second group of BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA operatives from Saudi Arabia were then trained by IRAQI INTELLIGENCE in IRAQ to smuggle weapons and explosives into Saudi Arabia and other countries, which they later accomplished in an effort to carry out future terrorist acts of violence. A third group of BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA operatives received a month of sophisticated guerrilla operations training from IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials later in the Summer of 1998.

67. Despite philosophical and religious differences with SADDAM HUSSEIN, BIN LADEN continually sought to strengthen and reinforce the support he and AL QAEDA received from IRAQ. In mid-July 1998, BIN LADEN sent Dr. AYMAN AL-ZAWAHIRI, the Egyptian co-founder of AL QAEDA, to IRAQ to meet with senior Iraqi officials, including Iraqi vice president TAHA YASSIN RAMADAN. Upon information and belief, the purpose of this meeting was to discuss and plan a joint strategy for a terrorist campaign against the United States.

69. During the July 1998 visit ZAWAHIRI toured an IRAQI military base and nuclear and chemical weapons facility near al-Fallujah in IRAQ and upon information and belief, observed training by IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials of AL QAEDA operatives at the al-Nasiriyah military and chemical weapons facility in IRAQ.

79. Following the December 1998 air strikes on IRAQ, SADDAM HUSSEIN dispatched FARUQ AL-HIJAZI to Kandahar, Afghanistan in order to meet with BIN LADEN and plot their revenge.

81. To demonstrate IRAQ’s commitment to BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA, HIJAZI presented BIN LADEN with a pack of blank, official Yemeni passports, supplied to IRAQI INTELLIGENCE from their Yemeni contacts. HIJAZI’s visit to Kandahar was followed by a contingent of IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials who provided additional training and instruction to BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA operatives in Afghanistan. These Iraqi officials included members of “Unit 999,” a group of elite IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials who provided advanced sabotage and infiltration training and instruction to AL QAEDA operatives.

82. At that meeting, upon information and belief, BIN LADEN, AL QAEDA and IRAQ agreed to join efforts in a detailed, coordinated plan for a protracted terrorist war against the United States.

84. IRAQ maintains an advanced chemical and biological weapons program and is one of only three countries in the world producing a highly developed weaponized anthrax. Some time during or after 1998, IRAQ agreed to help BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA develop a laboratory in Afghanistan designed to produce anthrax.

85. In addition to the al-Nasiriyah and Salman Pak training camps, by January 1999, BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA operatives were being trained by IRAQI INTELLIGENCE and military officers at other training camps on the outskirts of Baghdad.

86. In January 1999, IRAQ began reorganizing and mobilizing IRAQI INTELLIGENCE front operations throughout Europe in support of BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA. HAQI ISMAIL, believed to be a member of the IRAQ’S MUKHABARAT Secret Service, left IRAQ to train in an Afghanistan AL QAEDA camp. ISMAIL was believed to be a liason between IRAQ, the TALIBAN and AL QAEDA and was rewarded with a position in the TALIBAN Foreign Ministry.

103. On July 21, approximately six weeks before the September 11 th attacks, IRAQI columnist Mulhalhal reported that BIN LADEN was making plans to “demolish the Pentagon after he destroys the White House.”

104. Mulhalhal’s July 21 article further informed that BIN LADEN would strike America “on the arm that is already hurting.” Upon information and belief, this references a second IRAQI sponsored attack on the World Trade Center. This interpretation is further bolstered by another reference to New York as “[BIN LADEN] will curse the memory of Frank Sinatra everytime he hears his songs.” (e.g., “New York, New York”) identifying New York, New York as a target.

105. Mulhalhal further indicated, “The wings of a dove and the bullet are all but one and the same in the heart of a believer.” (Emphasis supplied) This appears to be a reference to the use of commercial aircraft as a weapon. The information was reported in an IRAQI newspaper who’s editor-in-chief serves as secretary to UDAY HUSSEIN’S Iraqi Syndicate of Journalists. The article expressed IRAQI admiration and support for BIN LADEN’s plans and its appearance in the newspaper would clearly have to be endorsed by SADDAM HUSSEIN himself.

106. All IRAQI news media is strictly controlled and censored by the government of SADDAM HUSSEIN and is under the direct oversight of UDAY HUSSEIN. Various members of IRAQI intelligence work at and control the content of each and every newspaper published inside IRAQ.

107. The information contained in Mulhalhal’s published statements were known prior to the events of September 11 th , and that Mulhalhal has ties to IRAQI intelligence, demonstrates foreknowledge of the planned attacks by BIN LADEN and indicates support by IRAQI co-conspirators.

110. According to U.S. and foreign intelligence officials, in the spring of 2000, IRAQI INTELLIGENCE agents met with September 11 th pilot hijackers ZAID SAMIR JARRAH and MARWAN AL-SHEHHI in Dubai, UAE in order to advance the hijacking of U.S. aircraft to commit terrorist acts. Not long after the meeting, AL-SHEHHI entered the United States on May 29 and JARRAH entered on June 27, to begin preparations for attacks.

133. Instruction documents on an artillery weapon known as the “Super Gun” were found in AL QAEDA camps when they were captured by U.S. forces in the winter of 2001-2002. IRAQ is the only state known to have purchased and assembled the super gun, a weapon so large it must be constructed in segments. It has a range of several hundred miles.

Other links to check out:

Al Qaeda linked to Saddam

Rice: Iraq Providing Shelter, Chemical Weapons Help to Al Qaeda

Ansar Al-Isam: Iraq’s Al-Qaeda Connection

Salman Pak: Iraq's Smoking Gun Link to 9-11?

PBS - Info on Salman Pak

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row

New evidence links Saddam, bin Laden

Arafat-Saddam-Bin Laden Links Surface

Saddam and Osama: A Long History

Saddam 'sends troops to help bin Laden men'

Iraqi Funds, Training Fuel Islamic Terror Group

Alert by Saddam points to Iraq - 23 Sep 2001 Article

Mounting Evidence of Iraqi Link to Terror Attacks

Iraqi defector tells of terrorist training camp

Will Iraq be the Next Target?


8 posted on 02/03/2003 9:24:25 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: areafiftyone
Would anyone trust a CIA that trusted the Clinton folks? Also what is Americans&#8212?

. Two months before the Richardson meeting, bin Laden had issued a fatwa, a religious ruling, in which he called on Muslims to kill Americans—civilians and military.

9 posted on 02/03/2003 12:05:20 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ
That stupid number pops up sometimes when you look view the HTML format of the article. I usually have to scan thru and delete it. I thought I got most of them out. Guess I missed one.
10 posted on 02/03/2003 12:07:19 PM PST by areafiftyone (The U.N. is now officially irrelevant! The building is for Sale!!!)
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To: areafiftyone
Excellent, detailed article. And in The New Yorker, of all places!

I was in NYC last week and came back home extremely depressed by the level of left-wing nonsense expressed by the chattering classes and by my own friends, who consider themselves, of course, "enlightened." Comparing Bush to Hitler seems to be par for the course - yes, that's BUSH, not SADDAM - as was announcing that there was no reason to think that Saddam was planning anything, it was just Bush wanting oil (one of the wierder arguments I've heard) that was leading to all of this. And as for terrorism, these idiots blithely proclaimed that it was just a threat and a scare tactic to "take away their civil liberties." Yeah. Right. Nobody in Iraq even has an civil liberties to take away, but that doesn't phase Upper West Siders.

I got into so many arguments that I was practically hoarse by the time I got back on the plane, but I fear it was all for nought, because I doubt that they really heard a word of what I said. I'm glad to know that our security services finally seem to be taking things a little more seriously. As for New Yorkers, or those on the Upper West Side, at least, I guess until there's another attack, they'll just refuse to believe it. If they believe it even then.
11 posted on 02/03/2003 1:21:01 PM PST by livius
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Excellent, detailed article. And in The New Yorker, of all places!

Actually, the New Yorker has a lot of good articles -- they're kinda surprising that way.

For example, back in 1997 they had this article about the threat of smallpox as a weapon.

It notes: The United States government keeps a list of nations and groups that it suspects either have clandestine stocks of smallpox or seem to be trying to buy or steal the virus. The list is classified, but it is said to include Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Israel, North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Cuba, and Serbia. The list may also include the terrorist organization of Osama bin Laden and, possibly, the Aum Shinrikyo sect of Japan....

The smallpox vaccinations being given to our troops suggests that the article is correct about the contents of that list.

12 posted on 02/04/2003 7:15:23 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Heuristic Hiker
A very long article, but well worth the read.
13 posted on 02/04/2003 9:11:59 PM PST by Utah Girl (Here I come to save the day, Mighty Mouse is on his way!!!)
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To: ravingnutter; areafiftyone; *Bush Doctrine Unfold; seamole; Lion's Cub; Libertarianize the GOP; ...
Thanks for all those links!

This needs to be on a list!

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14 posted on 02/08/2003 6:11:55 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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15 posted on 02/08/2003 6:25:23 PM PST by Free the USA (Stooge for the Rich)
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To: Snake65
No, it ain't!

Excerpt from Bob Woodward's book:

"Many believe Saddam is involved," [Bush] said. "That's not an issue for now. If we catch him being involved, we'll act. He probably was behind this in the end."

They turned to the hot topic of anthrax. The powder in the letter mailed to Senator Daschle's office had been found to be potent, prompting officials to suggest its source was likely an expert capable of producing the bacteria in large amounts. Tenet said, "I think it's AQ" -- meaning al Qaeda. "I think there's a state sponsor involved. It's too well thought out, the powder's too well refined. It might be Iraq, it might be Russia, it might be a renegade scientist," perhaps from Iraq or Russia.

Scooter Libby, Cheney's chief of staff, said he also thought the anthrax attacks were state sponsored. "We've got to be careful on what we say." It was important not to lay it on anyone now. "If we say it's al Qaeda, a state sponsor may feel safe and then hit us thinking they will have a bye because we'll blame it on al Qaeda."

"I'm not going to talk about a state sponsor," Tenet assured them.

"It's good that we don't," said Cheney, "because we're not ready to do anything about it."

16 posted on 02/08/2003 6:27:31 PM PST by txhurl
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To: areafiftyone
Outstanding article. Powell said in his speech to the UN that a friendly intelligence agency had asked for the arrest and extradition of the al-Qaida boss in Baghdad, but he didn't identify the country.

Now, we know it was Jordan.

17 posted on 02/08/2003 7:10:39 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: livius
Forget New Yorkers they are way beyond the pale no chance of breaking through the years of leftist propaganda inclucated in them through the communist controlled teachers union. Everything Evil originates in New York or its transplants in L.A.
18 posted on 02/08/2003 7:30:01 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: aristeides; thinden; honway; piasa
Good information review in paragraphs 51-57.
19 posted on 02/08/2003 10:08:33 PM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: areafiftyone
Jeffery Goldberg does excellent work. He did quite a good article for the New Yorker last spring, after he managed to visit the Kurdish part of Iraq.
20 posted on 02/09/2003 11:03:20 AM PST by aristeides
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