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Astronomer saw shuttle apparently in trouble over California
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 02/01/03 | John Antczak

Posted on 02/01/2003 2:25:26 PM PST by socal_parrot

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1 posted on 02/01/2003 2:25:26 PM PST by socal_parrot
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To: socal_parrot
They said during the NASA press conference that most likely what was seen over California is plasma, not shuttle parts.
2 posted on 02/01/2003 2:27:16 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (_*_)
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To: Keith in Iowa
The news conference referenced a viewing in Hawaii.
3 posted on 02/01/2003 2:28:34 PM PST by socal_parrot
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"... compared notes with two news photographers who had arranged to photograph the re-entry through a telescope."


What?
Where are the photos!
Will a telescope be able to track something moving that fast?
4 posted on 02/01/2003 2:29:20 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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We are going to be finding debris for years. How many seconds is it from CA to TX for the shuttle and how many states can see it all at once.?
5 posted on 02/01/2003 2:29:21 PM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: socal_parrot
I hope the film they got helps solve the cause of this tradegy.
6 posted on 02/01/2003 2:29:29 PM PST by vger
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To: socal_parrot
However, they did say phenomena such as described in this article, and what was observed in Hawaii is common - plasma...
7 posted on 02/01/2003 2:29:46 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (_*_)
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Yeah, but they hadn't heard the report, so they were clearly speaking off the cuff.
8 posted on 02/01/2003 2:30:11 PM PST by Vroomfondel
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To: socal_parrot
Bump
9 posted on 02/01/2003 2:31:20 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tag Line Service Center: Get your Tag Lines Here! Wholesale! (Cheaper by the Dozen!) Inquire Within)
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The trouble was reported here at FreeRepublic at 9:03 from a freeper from las Vegas.

here

It wasnt a glow that spread back like a comet but it must have been "on fire" because it was bright and big.


2/1/2003 9:03

10 posted on 02/01/2003 2:31:31 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angles trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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I should think plasma would leave a glowing trail, but I shouldn't think it would appear to fall away as described. This sounds like a pretty good witness.
11 posted on 02/01/2003 2:31:57 PM PST by Cicero
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And, they also said the point of maximum heat and pressure on re-entry was over Texas.
12 posted on 02/01/2003 2:34:36 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (_*_)
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Yeah, but they hadn't heard the report, so they were clearly speaking off the cuff.

I don't think the timing is right. If I got the sequence right from the NASA conference, there weren't any sensor problems until the Shuttle was over Texas.

Of course, they aren't even sure that the sensor problem is related to what destroyed the Shuttle.

13 posted on 02/01/2003 2:35:31 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: TLBSHOW
I live up in the Sierra Nevada mountains here in California and I went out with the kids this morning to watch the shuttle go by. It went by at around 5:55 - big fireball trailing its plume of smoke. I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary as it went past. It is a very amazing sight. God rest the crew..
14 posted on 02/01/2003 2:37:30 PM PST by Chesterbelloc
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It was very irritating - the post here on FR stated a time of 4:48am, instead of 5:48am Pacific Time. I got up to look for it, but went back to bed.

I did hear the double sonic boom, I believe, and the rumble of its passage - it woke me up at least a little.
15 posted on 02/01/2003 2:38:32 PM PST by mvpel
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To: socal_parrot
This report and the Vegas report later in this thread make sense.

Temperature sensors started failing several (five, six, seven) minutes before loss of contact over Texas. At 12,000 miles an hour in five minutes we are talking 1,000 miles.
16 posted on 02/01/2003 2:40:41 PM PST by cgbg
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To: Joe Hadenuf
fyi...
17 posted on 02/01/2003 2:40:59 PM PST by Dog
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To: Born to Conserve
Will a telescope be able to track something moving that fast?

Yes.

18 posted on 02/01/2003 2:41:59 PM PST by thinktwice
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To: TLBSHOW
After watching the video umpteen times, but having never seen the shuttle in descent before, it's hard to tell if it's merely glowing when we first see it, and leaving a vapor trail, or if it's already combusted and trailing fire and smoke along with vapor.

It looks to me already burning when the video begins.

Then the burning becomes obvious and the shuttle begins to spin like a rifled bullet and then break apart 2-3 seconds later.

The fireball we see before breakup might be 300 yards across, and there were heroes in its center.

It's a terrible terrible sight, my eyes and heart are in pain.

19 posted on 02/01/2003 2:42:16 PM PST by jwfiv
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To: Vroomfondel
Yeah, but they hadn't heard the report, so they were clearly speaking off the cuff.

They hadn't seen the report, but they certainly have some information of their own. They had equiment of their own with more than a casual eye on the shuttle over California.

20 posted on 02/01/2003 2:43:33 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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