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My grumpy left getting tedious in its harshness
The Minneaplis Star Tribune ^ | 1/29/03 | Paul Scott

Posted on 01/31/2003 6:09:46 PM PST by Gothmog

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:38:22 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I'm a lefty. But lately, instead of inspiring me, the left keeps making me feel awful about the world.

My latest lefty-awful moment happened on Martin Luther King Day last week, as I turned on an MPR call-in show. The subject was the peace movement, and host Katherine Lanpher's guest was New York-based professor of sociology and commentator Todd Gitlin.


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Not sure whether this is a column, op-ed or letter to the editor, writing style suggests options 1 or 2. The point is, I don't see similar material coming fron conservative columnists and op-ed writers. My thougt, an indication we're winning the war of ideas.

Lots of funny observations like "Much has been made of late of the unlikely bed-partners at these marches -- how the merely conscientious must sit through the orations of the terminally consternated."

Or maybe it's Friday and I'm just (very) pleasantly buzzed. Take a poll.

1 posted on 01/31/2003 6:09:46 PM PST by Gothmog
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To: Gothmog
But lately, instead of inspiring me, the left keeps making me feel awful about the world.

Well, good morning sleepy head. 'Bout time you woke up.

2 posted on 01/31/2003 6:12:47 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Gothmog
Gitlin is a Berkeley 60s radical who supported and defended the crazies of that era. I believe he is now teaching legal ethics, an irony which is worth a few laughs to those who know him.
3 posted on 01/31/2003 6:15:24 PM PST by gaspar
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To: Gothmog
"Hold on a minute, you mean to tell me that this "cheese-like food product isn't actually cheese?"

Another one emerges from the ether.

Chip, chip, chip.

4 posted on 01/31/2003 6:22:08 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: gaspar
Any idea on who this Paul Scott is? It sounds like a column or op-ed (which would make the case stronger that the protestors are completley out of the mainstream).
5 posted on 01/31/2003 6:23:13 PM PST by Gothmog
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To: Gothmog
"The caller can't possibly remember Neville Chamberlain going to Berlin," said the eagle-eyed professor, "because Chamberlain went to Munich."

The professor, worrying about syntax and minutae, missed - or rather made - the point that Chamberlain went to Germany. Tell us, prof, what was accomplished in Munich?

6 posted on 01/31/2003 6:34:37 PM PST by NonValueAdded
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To: Gothmog
The retreat into the combative and the adversarial is the left's self-inflicted wound. It saves thinking.

I get the broad sense that the "antiwar" coalition was an integral part of the Democratic constituency that was just waiting for a chance to (1) form solidarity, (2) jump on Bush, and (3) persuade itself that it was still the sole repository of conscience in the United States, just as it was erroneously convinced was the case during Vietnam. This places them, in this case at least, in the position of defending everything they are ostensibly against, i.e. fascism, dictatorship, nuclear weapons, religious extremism...and they don't care. To be united and against the Republicans is sufficient. It is a sad, superficial, and ultimately self-defeating reflex.

7 posted on 01/31/2003 6:34:46 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: NonValueAdded
I know, they're so sad. Just sad.
8 posted on 01/31/2003 6:51:44 PM PST by Gothmog
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To: Billthedrill
I wish the jackasses would do us all a favor and reflexively kick themselves in the head. Save us the trouble.
9 posted on 01/31/2003 6:53:08 PM PST by Gothmog
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To: Billthedrill
"To be united and against the Republicans is sufficient. It is a sad, superficial, and ultimately self-defeating reflex."

I beg to differ. This is a happy thing for America and for freedom precisely because it demonstrates that the Left is in a 'reactionary' state. When their agenda is not proactive or 'progressive' and in accord with the unfolding of events, they become the defenders of the status quo and, thus, static in their analysis of current events and tactics of change. That, in itself, is remarkable.

Perhaps we can make it commonplace and thereby cement it in the consciousness of the public?
10 posted on 01/31/2003 7:34:09 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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To: Thud
ping
11 posted on 01/31/2003 8:08:20 PM PST by Dark Wing
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Perhaps we can make it commonplace and thereby cement it in the consciousness of the public?

Perhaps we can...yes, perhaps we can...

12 posted on 01/31/2003 8:21:29 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Gothmog; joanie-f; JeanS; snopercod; Clive; mommadooo3
A friend of mine recently informed a certain friend of hers --- that friend being a leftist, Democrat, union member who fancies himself to be "open minded" --- that said leftist is the most rigid, narrow-minded person she has ever met.

He was stunned.

There is no longer any "left" which favors the Unites States of America; there is only The Party and Its Followers --- the Fascist Nationalizing Socialist ("FNS") officially known as the Democrat Party.

That Party is "miles away" from the "man on the street" and from the average "Reagan Democrat," yet the Party still requires such Americans' vote.

Still, the Party is fascist, which is why it supports world fascism, such as that in Iran, North Korea, Iraq, and Cuba --- which are quaint geographical regions wherein The Party is to whom absolute obedience is required.

The countries mean nothing, but to the people.

Hillary Clinton is a fascist, and she is running for President, not to mention amassing a media empire which will include a significant portion of the faltering Time Warner ... if anybody over at The Washington Times would care to notice and write about it, that is, her.

Hillary Clinton vicariously is one of the largest propaganda moguls in the world. No cash will be found directly tied to her, but her followers are utterly sworn to her, their efforts; for example, Mr. Daley now at SBC.

Hillary is the single most powerful force which is scaring young people, especially women, into thinking that a vote for a Republican candidate is a vote for abject surrender.

When you stand in the checkout line at the shopping center, almost everywhere in the U.S.A., and you see the stacks of publications for sale ... the distributor of those publications and making quite a lot of money at it, is not Hillary herself, but her minions.

It's kinda like this: Hitler's NAZI Party did not own the means of production in Germany and oft times is excused from being identified as socialist, which it was; but the atmosphere conducive to life inside the Third Reich, required all "private enterprise" answering to "the board of directors."

Hillary is the chairman of the board of a vast left-wing extremist, fascist, nationalizing socialist empire around the world, wherein The Party is supreme, and she's at the top of it.

Follow the money.

13 posted on 02/01/2003 12:30:51 AM PST by First_Salute
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To: Gothmog
good read
14 posted on 02/01/2003 12:40:54 AM PST by woofie (I dont believe in this tag line crap)
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To: First_Salute
der Sturmer
15 posted on 02/01/2003 3:38:36 AM PST by snopercod
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To: Billthedrill
I've lived long enough to see the anti-(vietnam) war movement morph into the anti-nuclear movement, then the environmental movement, and now back to the anti-war movement.
16 posted on 02/01/2003 3:42:52 AM PST by snopercod
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To: snopercod; joanie-f; TPartyType; redrock; Covenantor; verb; Paul Rodriguez
People are never taught about the use of propaganda by the NAZI Party BEFORE the war for many years; that budget was enormous; and Goebbels was a master of dissemination.

That media blitz deserves much more credit than is mentioned, if ever, here.

While the large Party rallies get the coverage in some documentaries, they overlook the day-to-day deluge of pamphleteering - and - pied - pipering which changed the pace of German life from circumspect thinking to fast forward movement.

Which is howcome I caution that to "move forward" requires sufficient courage to look up and read the sign over your head on the path to ...

"Work makes you free!"

Hillary's objective is to equate her very self with the rushing, gushing release of "self-actualization" upon the threshold of believing that you will be free by following her --- she, representing your liberty from oppression.

That's what she's up to; no different than Adolf Hitler, other than she is more patient, outwardly lest she prematurely upset the setting of her hook.

17 posted on 02/01/2003 10:52:14 AM PST by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute
well put!
18 posted on 02/06/2003 4:50:17 PM PST by TPartyType
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To: Gothmog
" a know-it-all style of dark grievance-dom that has increasingly come to define the peace movement left."

When living in a dung heap, everything tends to look and smell like dung.

19 posted on 02/06/2003 6:00:04 PM PST by Ches
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To: TPartyType
Good to know you're still kicking.
20 posted on 02/07/2003 8:43:38 AM PST by First_Salute
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