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Need help with unregenerate liberals (shameless vanity)
feeble brain | 1/29/03 | me

Posted on 01/29/2003 8:57:18 PM PST by Xenalyte

As many of you know, I'm associated with a local Renaissance festival. (Yeah, I know, huzzah.)

Most of my fellow Rennies are amazingly reflexive liberals, who think Dubya is both stupid AND the devil (and oh yeah, selected, not elected), that Iraq isn't all that bad and besides we're in it for the oil, and that Bill Clinton was the best thing to happen to our country since FDR.

Any suggestions on how to deal with them amicably?

(Concealing my political stance is out of the question.)


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1 posted on 01/29/2003 8:57:18 PM PST by Xenalyte
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To: Xenalyte

When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite. -- Churchill.

2 posted on 01/29/2003 9:01:04 PM PST by dighton
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To: Xenalyte
I like to ask questions and let others reach the conclusions.
3 posted on 01/29/2003 9:01:05 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Xenalyte
Does smiting count?
4 posted on 01/29/2003 9:02:38 PM PST by nunya bidness (Your ad here!)
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To: Xenalyte
Any suggestions on how to deal with them amicably?

Your viewing them as the children they are and you as the responsible adult will help you survive the ordeal.

5 posted on 01/29/2003 9:05:00 PM PST by jigsaw
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Lucky you! My entire in-law coterie is democrat! Libertarianize the GOP is right on the money, but you have to frame your questions stealthily. I'm gradually getting my wife to see that sinkEmperor was extremely dangerous for this Republic, and that Jimmy Carter was sort of out in left field, but I'll die and be forgotten before some of them ever see the light.
6 posted on 01/29/2003 9:05:43 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: dighton
What the hell kind of bra is that!?!?
7 posted on 01/29/2003 9:06:09 PM PST by jigsaw
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To: Xenalyte
Obviously you need to plot with the royal guard to seize the throne and make me your minister of security. I have ways of persuading those liberals.
8 posted on 01/29/2003 9:10:42 PM PST by weikel (The Democratic Party: A communist front since 1896)
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To: Xenalyte
Dennis Miller.....a few minutes ago:

"Look, I'm no friend of Bush, but the only smoking gun I want to see is the one that just shot Saddam."
9 posted on 01/29/2003 9:11:24 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: Xenalyte
Just be polite. It's not always easy.

I taught for several years at two very liberal colleges. Some colleagues were nasty, downright ugly. I'd silently pray for them, be polite, and go on with life. It works. The overwhelming majority of liberals respected me for this. I can't say I converted anyone, but my relationship with everyone was amicable.

10 posted on 01/29/2003 9:12:10 PM PST by John Twenty 28
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
I like to ask questions and let others reach the conclusions.

Socrates is still a good role model.

11 posted on 01/29/2003 9:13:25 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: Xenalyte
Also being a renaisance fair you may accuse them of treason, sodomy, withcraft, heresy, malificium, contempt of the crown etc. If they recant their liberals ways they may be spared execution by the inquisition.
12 posted on 01/29/2003 9:17:01 PM PST by weikel (The Democratic Party: A communist front since 1896)
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To: dighton

13 posted on 01/29/2003 9:22:04 PM PST by weikel (The Democratic Party: A communist front since 1896)
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To: Xenalyte
Study the ethics that likely made Alexander the Great great -- Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics.

Aristotle was hired to personally tutor the teenage Alexander during those formative years, and those ethics are clearly visible throughout Alexander's subsequent life.

Among "different" things noted about Alexander is the fact that he was the first conquering general to send men home on leave from the battlefield -- that I learned in a jr. College history class. Then later, upon finding and reading a comprehensive biography on Alexander, I learned that it wasn't just one on one instruction between Alexander and Aristotle; all of Alexander's teenage friends were in Aristotle's class. Those friends later became trusted commanders of large force groups, or leaders within Alexander's "Companion Force," and those men sent home on leave were the young and newly married Macedonians (Alexander's own countrymen) during winter encampment periods. They would ride to the Mediterranean coast and take ships to Macedonia -- Alexander took full control over the Mediterranean before heading east into Persia.

Aristotle's "Virtues" are courage, temperance, generosity, magnificence, magnanimity, proper ambition, patience, truthfulness, wittiness, friendliness, modesty and righteous indignation. Aristotle's "vices" are defined as deviation from those virtues in terms of either excess or deficiency. Where courage is the virtue when it comes to either fear or confidence, rashness is the excess and cowardice is the deficiency. And ... etc.

When you get into it, you will find that Aristotle's vices define most all aspects of modern liberal behavior.

14 posted on 01/29/2003 9:26:03 PM PST by thinktwice
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I had a liberal history teacher in HS. We were good friends though, as he respected my beliefs and I managed to listen to his (though he was dead wrong....:) The thing is, he said he was my favorite student because of how often I spoke up in class, even though I often disagreed with him. He told me sometimes, he says radical things just trying to get people to think and that it not necessarily everything he spouts off he believes. My senior year of high school, a junior came up to me and told me that Mr. Overman talked about me in class and said that he missed my opinions. Apparently, he told the class that I was an excellent example of what he wanted them to be, a critical thinker not accepting of everything. I still like this man...despite my hearing he has some really crazy theories about Sept. 11 and the Bush administration.

Anyway, now this year, my freshman year in college, one of my favorite professors is a major lefty. He has also stated that I am good at being able to express myself while understanding an occasional good point of the liberal side (emphasis on occasional...lol).

Indeed, respect can do wonders. It seems my teachers are almost shocked that there are people that can debate without personally attacking opponents.

Of course, if someone personally attacked me for my political beliefs, I would NOT hold back and get nasty and tough....even to a professor if necessary. But, if they respect my opinion and let me say what I believe, I should owe them the same respect.
15 posted on 01/29/2003 9:41:03 PM PST by rwfromkansas (What is the chief end of man? To glorify God and enjoy Him forever. --- Westminster Catechism Q1)
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To: Xenalyte
My usual approach is to smile gently and say "but that's what everybody thinks, isn't it? Doesn't that make you think they might be wrong?" People who tune into NPR daily to get their brains filled with mush can't bear the thought that they're not independent. Kinda like the "nonconformist" kiddies, all dressed alike, all listening to the same music...
16 posted on 01/29/2003 9:46:17 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Xenalyte
I would suggest the sword, with the battle-axe held in
reserve for the really tough cases.

17 posted on 01/30/2003 6:22:51 AM PST by G-Bear
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To: G-Bear
People who tune into NPR daily to get their brains filled with mush can't bear the thought that they're not independent

Kinda like this place some days.

Unconditional Surrender to the Volonte General ain't so bad so long as it's OUR "moral war" and our "respect for human life from the moment of BIRTH" the almighty polls show folks are supporting.

Self-delusion on a scale directly proportionate to the charisma of our parentalist leadership.

18 posted on 01/30/2003 6:37:58 AM PST by Askel5
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To: dighton
Leave 'em be.

They'll grow up eventually.

At lest, most of them do.

Any word on this year's weapons?
19 posted on 01/30/2003 10:37:58 AM PST by El Sordo (Just a hobo among the trains of thought)
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To: El Sordo; Xenalyte

Any word on this year's weapons?

Xenalyte could fill you in on that. I'm just someone who likes looking at pictures.

;-)

20 posted on 01/30/2003 10:53:57 AM PST by dighton
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