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Stupid Black Parents
washingtondispatch ^ | Jan 28, 2003 | Bob Parks

Posted on 01/28/2003 11:34:39 PM PST by TLBSHOW

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To: TLBSHOW
I agree that white liberals love to treat blacks as inferiors (and that any number of black leaders love to reinforce that treatment such as Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc).

But be careful with the statistics. If I test a white poor, rural student from Mississippi against a white private school student from Amherst, the test results will reveal that the Amherst student performs better. No racial implications - its just that economics and culture impact test scores.

So, why do blacks underperform on standardized tests? Well, it could be that blacks are, on average, more stupid than whites. But it could be that blacks have lower income than whites, partly due to racial prejudice and partly due to terrible education. Also, some black writers have lamented about the culture of drugs, violence and instant wealth that has infested inner cities; this is part of the "Why bother?" mentality that many inner city blacks have adopted over the years.

So, what do we do about it? Better education seems like a good answer, but the political realities are such that the programs adopted tend to be demeaning (see original poster's story about NJ or Ted Kennedy's proposed black-speak program [guaranteed to ensure that blacks never fit into society in other than sports or entertainment] or just plain embarrasing (moving away from reading, writing and arithmetic and moving towards black culture, sensitivity training, sexual awareness - I think all of these things have value, but as additional material to the basic education, not as substitutes).

This requires black households to 1) reduce their abandonment problems, 2) reduce teenage pregnancy [and abandonment] and 3) tout education. Liberals never want to address these issues because they would be attacked as racists. But they need to be discussed more so that a solution can be found.

I teach and I understand the concerns of people on this board. However, I have had numerous black students who are every bit as good as my best white students. However, these black students tend to come from more affluent familiies that have escaped the inner city.

So, how do help blacks or hispanics escape the inner city? This is a hard problem that does not lend itself to simple Hillary-type solutions such as give schools more money (that is, give my friends more money so that they can pocket it or give it to their friends). I don't know the answer except to follow the example of Malcolm X (the latter days, not the early "white devil" days) - blacks have to become educated and do it themselves.

But white liberals make it difficult. Take movies for example. Many movies about blacks depict inner-city LA and end up glorifying the power and camaraderie of the gangs? Many of them. We then give Denzel Washington, a very talented actor, an Oscar for probably his worst role - a crooked black cop with power who only screws up when he kills one of those nasty (and white) Russians. I heard kids leaving the theatre saying "I wish I had that job!" Danny Glover, a less-talented actor, is worshipped by the liberals because he says "discrimination" about everything.

The point is that white liberals encourage the race-baiting for their own power base. They have no incentive to actually fix the problems (gee, if blacks succeed, they become Republicans! We better screw this up royally and convince them that we are their friends). This was Bill Clinton's model - can anyone tell me what Clinton did that helped blacks so much OTHER than telling them that he did so much?

21 posted on 01/29/2003 4:47:50 AM PST by TonyS6
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To: FreedomPoster
The racism inherent in the Left's treatment of blacks is clearly on display here, as it is so often. It is simply amazing that they manage to get 90% of their vote.


I think that is going to change as the left is exposec for what it is a racist outfit!
22 posted on 01/29/2003 7:11:12 AM PST by TLBSHOW (just a internet liberal; basher that is hated by the leftwing nuts!)
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To: Bob
I guess it must be true.
24 posted on 01/29/2003 9:11:25 AM PST by HaveGunWillTravel
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To: TonyS6
So, why do blacks underperform on standardized tests? Well, it could be that blacks are, on average, more stupid than whites. But it could be that blacks have lower income than whites, partly due to racial prejudice and partly due to terrible education.

All people are not equal no matter how many laws we pass. Could poverty and violence be the culprit? I know many immigrants that come from h*ll, they are not native speakers, they are disliked by others racial groups and they are poor.
Guess what? They work hard, and maintain high GPA's, and become productive citizens.

Personnaly, my fmaily came from a reservation that is real poor and alcoholism is a problem (to put it mildly) and guess what? We don't kill and rob and we are able to handle learning.

25 posted on 01/29/2003 9:28:10 AM PST by NativeSon
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Sorry I'm late, I got sick overnight (Baby Lynese is breathing on Daddy, and politely threw up on him Sunday afternoon), and came into the office with six different fires to put out once I finally got in...[sigh]

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26 posted on 01/29/2003 9:56:17 AM PST by mhking
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To: TLBSHOW
Every week it seems there is more evidence of how the white liberal supporters of "affirmative action" view blacks.

I think it is actually starting to hurt the RATs.

27 posted on 01/29/2003 9:58:52 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: mhking
I still say the more we stand up and expose the racist liberal agenda the sooner we will end the democrats hold on Black Americans and will expose that the democrats/DNC are just one big hate and racist political party.
28 posted on 01/29/2003 10:24:04 AM PST by TLBSHOW (just a internet liberal; basher that is hated by the leftwing nuts!)
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To: TLBSHOW
I still say the more we stand up and expose the racist liberal agenda

Agreed. And it is happening more and more each day. This is a battle of single instances and individuals.

29 posted on 01/29/2003 10:26:37 AM PST by mhking
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"(Baby Lynese is breathing on Daddy, and politely threw up on him Sunday afternoon)"

Are you a "puke-magnet", too? It never failed...up until my daughter was about 6, everytime she had to throw up, she would somehow find her way to me and let loose all over me. Once, while out on a day trip to one of those gawd-awful outlet malls, she got sick all over me. It was quick and she had no control, so I just bought another shirt and we got ready to leave. She felt sick again and warned me. I held her-facing away from me, so that she could throw up on the grass, and she still managed to turn at the last second...bought another shirt, so that I could drive home clothed. Guess what happened again...yep...bought another shirt.

Back on topic, this is just simply unbelievable. Why is it that when conservatives tell blacks that they are capable of doing things on their own, and can succeed with only their hard work, we are racist. Yet, when liberals tell blacks that they can't succeed without the intervention of well-meaning whites, they are not racist? Here we have a classic case of liberals, showing their concern for blacks by tqaking out all the big words and making it easy to read. How white of them.

Jeez. What's it going to take to get blacks to open their eyes to what is going on? Those that do are assailed as "Uncle Toms". You have others calling for voluntary segregation and even supporting ebonics. I just don't get it.

30 posted on 01/29/2003 10:40:27 AM PST by RayBob (Put your ad here!)
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To: mhking
Baby Lynese threw up on Dad right before the Super Bowl Game? What is she, a prescient Raiders fan? :)

Funny, the whole section of “TEN THINGS TEACHERS WISH PARENTS WOULD DO” is missing. I guess the New Jersey Education Association has no expectations of black parents. Again, big words have been omitted and the sentences are shorter on the black version.

Sheesh, I read the whole article and it's evident that the writers thought the parents were very stupid. Sort of tells you what they think about the kids. Liberal patronizing at it's most evident.

31 posted on 01/29/2003 10:50:27 AM PST by xJones
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To: mhking; RayBob
Nothing like having a lap full of curdled strawberry flavored milk.
32 posted on 01/29/2003 10:56:57 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: TLBSHOW
More nuttiness from my home state. And to think I can relax here in "normal" California.
33 posted on 01/29/2003 10:58:50 AM PST by amused (don't call them liberals, they're socialists)
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To: amused
bump!
34 posted on 01/29/2003 11:23:34 AM PST by subterfuge (I do have to get snippy about it!)
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To: farmfriend
Nothing like having a lap full of curdled strawberry flavored milk.

Don't forget mixing it with rice...

35 posted on 01/29/2003 11:25:54 AM PST by mhking
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To: TLBSHOW
Here is Boortz's talking points discussing the same:

http://www.boortz.com/jan23-03.htm

36 posted on 01/29/2003 11:32:03 AM PST by amused (don't call them liberals, they're socialists)
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To: TLBSHOW
Just curious.
Was the author's picture provided by the source so that the reader would know that it was a black man that wrote the article?

From my knowledge of this subject, I believe everyone has a right to be outraged.

37 posted on 01/29/2003 11:32:59 AM PST by MrB
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To: TLBSHOW
I say “was” because the African-American version was removed. It wasn’t removed by racists to deny black parents valuable information available to everyone else. No, it was removed because it was there and what was in it.

They Fail to mention that it was taken down as a direct result of NEAL BOORTZ pointing it out on his show. It was change DURING the time he was talking about it.

38 posted on 01/29/2003 11:35:57 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Bob
A Spanish version assumes those parents are too stupid to learn English.
39 posted on 01/29/2003 11:43:46 AM PST by FITZ
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To: TLBSHOW
incredible racism to make a black version.
40 posted on 01/29/2003 11:57:51 AM PST by Red Jones
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