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My Brother was Brainwashed by Communist Professors: A conservative Christian admires Noam Chomsky?
frontpagemag.com/PoliticallyRight.com ^ | January 27, 2003 | Daniel Larson

Posted on 01/27/2003 5:24:17 AM PST by SJackson

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To: Jeff Head
The Bernie and guys from the dump will be sending you an e-mail testament of their wisdom, in hope of helping your daughter out.
61 posted on 01/27/2003 6:19:30 PM PST by the irate magistrate
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To: js1138
Deny to your heart's content. :-)
62 posted on 01/27/2003 6:34:49 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner (I could be a really good Christian if other people didn't mess me up all the time. - Adrian Plass)
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To: Jeff Head
Thank you for the ping, Jeff - and for raising such a courageous and independent daughter.
63 posted on 01/27/2003 6:36:15 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (289 Million Americans Avoid Peace Rallies. Press cover-up bigger than Watergate!)
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To: k.trujillo
"-- my English professor AND History Professor both talk about Noam Chompsky and his "wonderful" ideas,--"
-k.t-

Could you give us some examples of these 'ideas' they tout?
I'm having a tough time envisioning Noam's wonderful historical wisdom.
64 posted on 01/27/2003 6:44:56 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Jeff Head
bump
65 posted on 01/27/2003 7:01:31 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: betty boop
Uh, do you actually watch T.V?
66 posted on 01/27/2003 7:46:24 PM PST by Dat (Liberals and Buchananites agree: its okay to steal as long as you're poor)
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To: Jeff Head
This young lady is fortunate, indeed, to have you as her father and role model. Tell her to stay the course, and she will win in the end--regardless of what grade she is given on this exercise. If I were she, I would also point out that the whole assignment is skewed toward the conclusion at which they are hoping the students will arrive.
67 posted on 01/27/2003 8:24:52 PM PST by basil
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To: basil
Yes, great "critical thinking" exercise isn't it.

Here's the thesis, now go manufacture/find data to support it.

As opposed to here's the data, what does it tell you ... and support your findings/thesis in fact.

68 posted on 01/27/2003 9:41:15 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: k.trujillo; Noumenon; LS; betty boop
Kate, lots of good info on this thread. Read all of the replies.

FR is a treasure drove for this type of stuff if you are willing to wade through it. It's well worth it and ill let you see how many of your brother and sister Americans think.

Check out Betty Boop's reply at #22 and the link she provided. Check out noumenon's comments and the thread he posted today with good info that I responded to you with. Also LS's reply at #16 and so many more.

Get back to tpaine on his request for what some of these people are teaching.

Gotta go.

69 posted on 01/27/2003 9:45:49 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
My advise to my daughter has been to just skip over the "labels" of conservative, liberal, etc. and focus wholly on whether the principles being pushed by these various groups support those principles that underly the constitutional republic we have based on faith, morality, self-reliance, independence, soveriegnty and the unalienable rights of the individual.

That has to be the best approach, skip the labels because they can be misleading. Capitalists aren't necessarily on the side of the US Constitution --certainly Globalists aren't.

70 posted on 01/28/2003 12:34:30 AM PST by FITZ
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To: LibertarianInExile
"Was the reason you haven't worked with Arnold Schwarzenegger since Conan The Barbarian for personal or professional reasons?

LOL! Great story!

71 posted on 01/28/2003 4:41:20 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: k.trujillo; Jeff Head
Welcome, girl-child of Jeff, and God bless your every word in this and other college papers.

You might, for this exercise, quote heavily from Bias, by Bernard Goldburg. He did a radio interview with Rush Limbaugh recently, which you may be able to access if you or your dad is a 24/7 member.

I suggest, for brevity's sake, that you choose one topic on which to focus, and discuss media bias toward that one topic. For instance, Abortion and the Anti-War Movement have both been in the news lately; how have the major networks and press covered these hot topics? Or you could compare and contrast - Rush did some great coverage of the media's promotion of the war protests versus their lack of coverage of the Pro-Life Rally in Washington here. Here's another great analysis.

Focus your search on the Big Guns:
1. USA Today (Arlington, Va.) Circulation: 2,149,933
2. Wall Street Journal (New York, N.Y.) Circulation: 1,780,605
3. Times (New York, N.Y.) Circulation: 1,109,371
4. Times (Los Angeles) Circulation: 944,303
5. Post (Washington, D.C.) Circulation: 759,864
(For comparison here's the most widely read Conservative-leaning paper:
100. Times (Washington, D.C.) Circulation: 103,505)

Check out this info from The American Society of Newspaper Editors on their own findings of the American public's view of bias in the media:
78 percent of U.S. adults agree with the assessment that there is bias in the news media.
58 percent believe that the public's dissatisfaction with the media is justified - as opposed to 29 percent who say the press is "an easy target for deeper problems in our society."
78 percent believe that powerful people can get stories into the paper - or keep them out.
50 percent believe there are particular people or groups that get a "special break" in news coverage, and 45 percent believe that others "don't get a fair shake."
77 percent believe newspapers pay lots more attention to stories that support their own point of view.

Research stories by the "Big 3" as well, ABC, CBS, and NBC. They know their audience is declining, yet they persist in their biased attempts at journalism. Check out this quote from Ted Koppel: "In what may be one of the more tragic convergences in American history, public trust in reporters has reached an all-time low at precisely the time that the country is about to be inundated in information chaos. America may not want to believe it, but it has never had a greater need for its professional press corps. Reporters and news organizations may not want to hear it, but the country has never had a greater need for serious, no-nonsense reporting." This quote is from his foreword to the book, Live from the Trenches. Go here for review.

Also, get great info at RatherBiased on what Dan Rather gets away with.

I guess I've cited Rush quite a bit above, but perhaps that could be part of your argument as well, that Conservatives have few media outlets to turn to for news without a liberal bias, and Rush Limbaugh's popularity (2 million listerners) displays American's hunger for news without the liberal slant.

72 posted on 01/28/2003 5:40:49 AM PST by .30Carbine (FReegards to the family)
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To: k.trujillo
More info from the Media Research Center on bias in the liberal big media surrounding the anniversary of Roe v. Wade and coverage of the abortion debate in general.
73 posted on 01/28/2003 6:01:29 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: LibertarianInExile
Wow, Oliver Stone, co-author of Conan... yeah, I can see how that might derail a Q & A! I wonder what anyone has on Noam that could distract the masses...
74 posted on 01/28/2003 6:03:49 AM PST by wizardoz (Bomb Hollywood!)
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To: k.trujillo
Here's Goldberg debating Donahue on RealPlayer about bias in the media. What a HOOT!
75 posted on 01/28/2003 6:27:10 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: betty boop
Here are some additional FR thread on Gramsci:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/743488/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a4c610569be.htm
76 posted on 01/28/2003 6:44:41 AM PST by Darnright
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To: Jeff Head
Some pings are not worth the 'P' in ping, but a ping from Jeff Head is always worth a good long look. This thread stands out as one representing what I call the old FR. The old FR still exists, but like you say "FR is a treasure drove for this type of stuff if you are willing to wade through it." PS, regarding spelling, I almost fell out of my chair vis-a-vis one spelling error in your first contribution to this thread. I could tell you were pressed for time. LOL.

This thread seems to have drawn out some the the best and brightest from yesteryear, and thanks for the ping.

77 posted on 01/28/2003 6:56:29 AM PST by wita
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To: k.trujillo
OMG, major error. Left out a zero here: Rush Limbaugh's popularity (2 million listerners)

Obviously, that should read 20 million listeners.

78 posted on 01/28/2003 7:00:10 AM PST by .30Carbine (my apologies to the Maha)
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To: Dat
Uh, do you actually watch T.V?

Sure! Mostly news. And I notice that the networks seem to be terribly interested in making profits. That is, they are capitalists. They do worry when ratings fall.

Of course, there's a certain cognitive dissonance here. They moan about the interloper, Fox News, stealing "their" audience. Fox is more "balanced" (i.e., conservative) in its presentation of the news. Viewers seem to like this -- they are "voting with their feet" in droves.

Which means the majors are going to have to take a look at their editorial policies if they want to staunch the flow of viewers heading over to Fox. All the TV majors other than Fox are ideologically invested in "elite progressivism." As capitalists, they find themselves in the position of wanting to make profits; but they can't do that if they aren't satisfying their viewers (the overwhelming majority of which are not elite progressives).

So that means they have to make a choice: quit with the propaganda and stay competitive, or stick with the propaganda and continue to lose market share.

It will be fun to watch them squirm through this "tough choice." Glitzy sets and graphics will not compensate for content that viewers dislike -- when viewers have an alternative. And they do.

79 posted on 01/28/2003 7:01:31 AM PST by betty boop
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To: Darnright
Thank's Darnright! Much good stuff here....
80 posted on 01/28/2003 7:05:12 AM PST by betty boop
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