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Evidence Of Tunguska-Type Impacts Over The Pacific Basin Around The Year 1178 AD
SIS Conference ^ | Emilio Spedicato

Posted on 01/26/2003 9:36:14 AM PST by blam

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1 posted on 01/26/2003 9:36:14 AM PST by blam
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Emilio Spedicato

Last to hit the stage was Emilio Spedicato, the Professor of Operations Research (a mathematical discipline) at Bergamo University. He had flown from Italy especially to be at the Mysteries of the Past conference.

Emilio treated the audience to a visual guide to the origins of the solar system and the possible mechanisms behind the appearance of comets, asteroids and other types of so-called Apollo objects in the inner solar system. He also confirmed that the Carolina bays cometary event at the end of the Pleistocene epoch might well have been responsible for the rapid climatic changes which eventually brought the last Ice Age to a sudden close some 11,500 years ago (I date these events around a thousand years later by using Carbon-14 data untainted by recalculations made using dendrochronology). Such an almighty impact would have caused a nuclear winter that re-advanced the ice sheets for a period of around 200 years (conforming with our knowledge of the brief re-advances known as the Valders in America and the Younger Dryas in Europe). Afterwards the climate would have warmed rapidly causing the melting of greet ice-sheets and glaciers, particularly in the northern parts of the American continent. The result would have been the rapid drowning of low-lying regions of the globe, including the Caribbean.

To finish his lecture, Emilio introduced the audience to his own theories on the true location of Atlantis. Using the basic evidence independently reviewed by myself and David Rohl, he has come to the conclusion that Plato’s Atlantic island was Hispaniola, the second largest island in the Greater Antilles group.

Evidence for this conclusion, he says, comes from the fact that the coasts of Atlantis were said by Plato to have been particularly precipitous, a description which applies very well to Hispaniola’s coastline. Moreover, since there have been no major changes to the shoreline since the termination of the glacial age, geologists can safely say that this is how the island would have looked in the time-frame proposed by Plato for the destruction of Atlantis.

On Hispaniola a roughly rectangular-shaped plain exists in the south-eastern corner of the island. Similar to the irrigated plain described in the CRITIAS, it is shielded to the north by a range of hills. Plato asserts that the size of the Atlantean plain is 3000 stadia (552 kilometres) by 2000 stadia (368 kilometres). This, Emilio feels, comes close to matching the overall size of Hispaniola, which is orientated east-west and measures approximately 650 x 300 kilometres; he dismissed the neighbouring island of Cuba as a possible candidate since it is too large to fit the island being implied by Plato.

One possible candidate for the location of the Atlantean city would, in Emilio’s estimate, be the lowland region of Hispaniola known as the Plaine de Cul-des-Sac. It is bordered north and south by mountains. Moreover, it possesses several lakes, including Lake Enriquillo, the surface of which is currently below sea-level. There is every reason to suggest that the lake could contain coralline structures, today covered by sediment, which might well help to explain the red, white and black stone said by Plato to have been used to construct the city.

The Taino of Hispaniola referred to the island as Quisqueya, the ‘mother of lands’. Did this denote, he suggested, its importance as a mythical homeland to the peoples of the Caribbean archipelago during prehistoric times?

If Hispaniola is Atlantis, then the other islands said by Plato to have formed the Atlantean empire would constitute the principal islands of the Greater Antilles, namely Cuba and Puerto Rico, a point I would not query. However, I have grave doubts about Hispaniola being Atlantis and address each and every one of the points raised by Emilio in its favour within GATEWAY TO ATLANTIS. Furthermore, you can read about the growing debate over the true location of Atlantis in the article on the work of Paul Felix Cabrera to be found elsewhere on this site. Yet the sheer fact that an academic of Emilio Spedicato’s calibre has concluded that Atlantis was the neighbouring island to the one proposed by myself only strengthens each other’s claims for having found the true location of Atlantis. I now have no doubt whatsoever that we are within a hare’s breath of uncovering the final mysteries of what is arguably one of the greatest mysteries of the past 2000 years.

2 posted on 01/26/2003 9:41:30 AM PST by blam
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Carolina Bays
3 posted on 01/26/2003 9:46:09 AM PST by blam
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Carolina Bays. (500,000 of these along the east coast of the US)

4 posted on 01/26/2003 9:48:16 AM PST by blam
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It is interesting that catastrophism is coming back. Sounds a bit like Velikovsky.
5 posted on 01/26/2003 9:48:46 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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Carolina Bays

6 posted on 01/26/2003 9:50:26 AM PST by blam
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I now have no doubt whatsoever that we are within a hare’s breath of uncovering the final mysteries of what is arguably one of the greatest mysteries of the past 2000 years.

"Hare's breath"???? Likely ought to be "hair's breadth". Not doing his credibility any favors by making such a mistake, huh?

7 posted on 01/26/2003 9:50:40 AM PST by The Electrician
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Sounds a bit like Velikovsky...

Not if you pay full attention to what Velokovsky says.

8 posted on 01/26/2003 9:50:57 AM PST by js1138
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Thanks again for giving us the benefit of your efforts
9 posted on 01/26/2003 9:53:26 AM PST by bert
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There is some minor evidence...but nothing overwhelming. It is curious that the Incas chose the mountains to build upon...nothing from their society exists prior to the 1200 period, and eventually...they did give up the mountains.
10 posted on 01/26/2003 9:53:28 AM PST by pepsionice
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Update On Underwater Megalithic (Cuba)
11 posted on 01/26/2003 9:56:17 AM PST by blam
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Thanks for the spell check. I read the guy 40 years ago-roughly.Just remember the impression i.e. Venus moving around etc. It was catatrophism though.Then we have Alvarez with his comet strike wiping out the dinosaurs-If I remember correctly. At any rate I wonder if this interest tells us more about the psyche of scientists than about reality. Just a thought.
12 posted on 01/26/2003 9:56:27 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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interesting
13 posted on 01/26/2003 10:01:42 AM PST by Centurion2000 (The meek shall inherit the Earth. The stars belong to the bold.)
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No one in geology has ever denied the possibility of asteroid impacts. The problem with catatrophism as it was theorized 50 years or more ago, is it attempted to explain what are obviously gradual processes. In the entire history of the earth there are only a handful of suspected worldwide catastrophes. The 1908 impact was a blip.
14 posted on 01/26/2003 10:01:53 AM PST by js1138
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A Catastrophic Scenario For Discontinuities In Human History
15 posted on 01/26/2003 10:08:33 AM PST by blam
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Going Into The Water: A Survey Of Impact Events And The Coastal People Of South-East North America, The Caribbean, And Central America
16 posted on 01/26/2003 10:15:32 AM PST by blam
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"Then we have Alvarez with his comet strike wiping out the dinosaurs."

That was Alvarez...and his meteorite was at Chixalub, just off the Yucatan, 65 millions years ago.

Impacts have greatly affected humans in the last 12k years.

17 posted on 01/26/2003 10:19:26 AM PST by blam
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Did Asteroids And Comets Turn The Tides Of Civilization?
18 posted on 01/26/2003 10:21:49 AM PST by blam
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Bump
19 posted on 01/26/2003 10:26:32 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Tag Line Service Center: Tag Line Repairs Here! Good Used Tag Lines For Sale! Inquire Within)
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When I had the sciences 40 to 45 years ago. There was no discussion of catatrophism except to say it was refuted. That is why I brought up the "return to catatrophism" topic. Of course there has been few world wide disasters in the history of the earth. If many more we would not be discussing this topic. Personally the modern catatrophists have convinced me.
20 posted on 01/26/2003 10:26:32 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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