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Calm down Rumsfeld.
1 posted on 01/23/2003 5:52:26 PM PST by Life of Brian
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Don't know if this has already been posted. If so I haven't seen it and sorry if it has already. There has been some speculation about this recently. The newspaper which carried the story in Germany is a lefty news paper no less and the origional story is in German. Perhaps someone could translate it for us. I for one would be interested to see what it says.
2 posted on 01/23/2003 5:57:54 PM PST by Life of Brian
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In October this year, a magazine of the German radio channel, Südwestrundfunk reported that electronics giant Siemens had delivered specialized technical equipment to Iraq for the treatment of kidney stones, but which could also under certain circumstances be used as a detonator for atom bombs.

Siemens insisted that the device could not be misused because it had commissioned an Iraqi company to regularly monitor the equipment. In fact the delivery was even sanctioned by the sanctions council of the U.N. and the Federal Office of Economics and Export Control (BAFA).

Nuclear triggers??

3 posted on 01/23/2003 6:00:51 PM PST by Dog (I hated France...... when hating France wasn't cool...)
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That explains why the Germans are acting the way they are! Time to pull our troops from Germany if they won't let us use their bases and airspace to launch all because they don't want the truth known.

Looks like some Germans have not changed if they are helping develop weapons of mass destruction.
16 posted on 01/23/2003 6:18:30 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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http://www.taz.de/pt/.etc/nf/archiv

The link to the newspaper in Berlin that carried the story in German. Can't read German and as far as I know there is not an english translation version. Also I am not sure if the story is held in their online archives but it could be.
17 posted on 01/23/2003 6:18:45 PM PST by Life of Brian
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Suppose there was treachery

27 posted on 01/23/2003 6:34:34 PM PST by StriperSniper (Start heating the TAR, I'll go get the FEATHERS.)
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Here is the article from the German paper ran through a web based translation, German to English. So it will be in error I'm sure in some parts......


German aid for Baghdad report at UN security council name of more than 80 German firms that supported Saddam Hussein in armament businesses contains. USA seek contains further references to dirty businesses GENEVA taz of the armament reports of the Iraqi government at the UN security council the names of more than 80 German businesses, several private and public research laboratories as well as of numerous individuals out of Germany. These should since about 1975 entire units, component, reason substances and technical Know-how for the programs Saddam Husseins to the development more atomically, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction as well as of rockets and complete conventional weapons delivered have. That follows out of the procurement relevant chapters of the Iraqi report, that exist the taz in copy. In some felling the cooperation lasted after representation of the report in the conventional area until at least to the year 2001.

The bush Administration strives presently after information out of direct environment of vice president thickly Cheney for additional information, with which it hopes belay to can one nominally until cooperation of Germany continuous armament technical today with the Iraq. At the same time it concerns informed is among other things the cooperation of a German microelectronics business with the Iraq, over that the Federal Government since 1999.

Already at that time the Federal Government was referred of German Rüstungskontrollexperten warning on that that this could find officially possibly use in the military area as a purely civilly designated technology. A member nominally well known long-time high-ranking the taz of the Bagdader regime signaled the bush Administration its readiness to deliver information on the cooperation with Germany for the promise of protective treatment in the counter-move after a slump of the regime. According to the reports the bush Administration wants to use corresponding communications in order to cause a welfare behavior of Germany in the UN security council.

The number of the business itemized German in the report is larger than the sum of the firms out of all other countries. At second place, the USA with approximately two dozen stands business. In addition the aid of US government side comes. Among other things the energy ministry in the 80er-Jahren delivered relevant nichtnukleare components for Baghdads nuclear weapons program.

In the report, also numerous references are found to cases, in which German national authorities tolerated and government place up to the federal ministry of economics above all in the phase of end of the 70er-Jahre to the second gulf war of 1991 the illegal armament cooperation with Iraq and actively promoted in part.

Is unclear whether the information closes out of Baghdad completely all 15 members of the UN security council. The copies existing the taz come had from the only complete original report, over the specialist US American to arrival in New York two weeks ago for 24 hours the exclusive decree. They would have at least time and opportunity had to remove information, before it copies for that four other permanent members of the security council of produced. "ANDREAS CLOSE

Focus PAGE 3 taz no. 6932 of the 17.12.2002, page 1, 67 lines (TAZ reports), ANDREAS CLOSE

Must taz be: what is you the internet edition of the taz valued? They help up transfer us, if you this sum: taz publishing house Berlin, postal service bank Berlin (BLZ 100,100,10), account Nr. 39316-106 for Austria: TAZ publishing house and marketing gmbh, account Nr. : 92.134.506, Österr. Postal service savings bank (P.S.K.)

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© Contrapress media gmbh duplication only with permission of the taz publishing house

Article from German Paper in German
33 posted on 01/23/2003 7:08:45 PM PST by deport
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Life of Brian, thanks! I've been looking for this!

Hey girls, lookee here!
35 posted on 01/23/2003 7:21:21 PM PST by Amelia (Who's sending missile parts to Iraq?)
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To: Life of Brian
Bump...
36 posted on 01/23/2003 7:23:09 PM PST by VOA
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43 posted on 01/23/2003 7:48:57 PM PST by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming!)
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HERE IS THE RUB.... GERMANS THOUGHT IT WAS THEIR PEACE LOVING ELITISM THAT WAS THE MOTIVATOR FOR NOT BEING AGAINST IRAQ.... TURNS OUT THEY ARE THE REASON WE ARE GOING TO WAR .... THIS IS RICH.
46 posted on 01/23/2003 8:06:31 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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