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Bug Chasers:The men who long to be HIV+
RollingStone.com ^ | (February 6, 2003) Edition | GREGORY A. FREEMAN

Posted on 01/23/2003 12:44:38 PM PST by Remedy

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To: George W. Bush

These are your tax dollars at work

More tax dollars:

Gay Activists Training Teachers in Special Curricu

61 posted on 01/23/2003 3:04:28 PM PST by Remedy
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To: Gritty

Isn't there some sort of health law preventing this kind of destructive behavior?

Thomas Jefferson on Sodomy

Sect. XIV. Whosoever shall be guilty of rape, polygamy, or sodomy* with a man or woman, shall be punished; if a man, by castration, a woman, by boring through the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch in diameter at the least.

* Paragraph 25. H. 8. C. 6. Buggery is twofold. 1. With mankind, 2. With beasts. Buggery is the Genus, of which Sodomy and Bestiality, are the species. 12. Co. 37. Says, "note that Sodomy is with mankind." But Finch's L. B. 3. c. 24. "Sodomiary is a carnal copulation against nature, to wit, of man or woman in the same sex, or of either of them with beasts." 12. Co. 36. Says, "it appears by the ancient authorities of the law that this was felony." Yet the 25. H. 8. Declares it felony, as if supposed not the be so.... B. Fleta, L. i. c. 37. says, "pecorantes et Sodomitae in terra vivi confodiantur." The Mirror makes it treason. Bestiality can never make any progress; it cannot therefore be injurious to society in any great degree, which is the true measure of criminality in foro civili, and will ever be properly and severely punished, by universal derision. It may, therefore, be omitted. It was anciently punished with death, as it has been latterly. Ll. Aelfrid. 31. and 25. H. 8. c. 6. see Beccaria. Paragraph 31. Montesq.

Peterson, Merrill D. "Crimes and Punishments" Thomas Jefferson: Writings Public Papers (Literary Classics of the United States, Inc. 1984) pp. 355, 356.

The penalties for violating sodomy laws in the USA:

Idaho, 5 years to life

Oklahoma, 20 years

Michigan, 15 years

Mississippi, 10 years

Puerto Rico, 8 - 20 years

Louisiana, 5 years/$2000

South Carolina, 5 years/$500

North Carolina, 3 years

Virginia, 1-5 years

Alabama, 1 year/$2000

Missouri, 1 year/$1000

Kansas, 6 months/$1000

Utah, 6 months/$299

Florida, 60 days/$500

Texas, $500

62 posted on 01/23/2003 3:07:24 PM PST by Remedy
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To: George W. Bush

Too bad this country no longer has the will to prevent outright menaces to the public health by shutting down bathhouses and prosecuting people that conspire to spread fatal disease to others.

Federalism Project: Supreme Court

Are State Sodomy Prohibitions Unconstitutional?

Lawrence v. Texas No. 02-0102

In Lawrence v. Texas, the Court will review a Texas law that criminalizes homosexual (but not heterosexual) sodomy. The inconveniences of democratic, decentralized decision making will be pitted against the charm of judicial fiat. Judicial fiat will win. For those who don't remember Bowers v. Hardwick (1986), it's just as well; the decision, and its cautionary approach to finding new constitutional rights, is about to be discarded.

That is too bad. The country has enjoyed a rough consensus on sodomy statutes. Most states don't have them. A few-increasingly few-still do but don't enforce them. (Lawrence, like Bowers, is a trumped-up test case.) That legislative-driven outcome is both a bit hypocritical and dissatisfying to fanatics on both sides. But the formula has allowed states to reflect their citizens' varied moral sentiments. It has allowed the liberalizers to make progress. Above all, it has spared us a national, first-principles debate about, of all things, sodomy.

What possessed the Court to yank up this made-up case from a Texas criminal court? Likely answer: the four liberal Justices, who think they can pick up a fifth or sixth anti-Bowers vote from Justice Kennedy or O'Connor. Nor is it far-fetched to surmise that the cert granters in this case had their eyes on the prospect of a judicial nomination fight, where the homosexual rights issue will be very awkward for the administration and its prospective nominee.

63 posted on 01/23/2003 3:13:36 PM PST by Remedy
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To: realpatriot71
I don't agree with O'Reilly most of the time, but I think he's right about adoptions and unions. From a pragmatic standpoint, is it better for a child to exist in an unemotional foster system, or to be truely loved by another human being? In a "perfect" world, every kid would grow up in a married heterosexual two parent home. Sans that utopia, what are we left to deal with? And as to unions, I see no legitimate reason to stop two adults from entering into a binding contract where they share their "stuff" (ie. money, house, cars, etc.).

However, I do not believe the "gay-lifestyle" is in accordance with Christian teaching, and I also believe that through the power of God people can switch their sexual orientations. I sincerely believe Mr. Bennett offers a service that people can actually benefit from.

29 posted on 01/23/2003 3:46 PM CST by realpatriot71

 

64 posted on 01/23/2003 3:20:42 PM PST by Remedy
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To: realpatriot71
Homosexual Parenting Studies Are Flawed, Report Says
65 posted on 01/23/2003 3:24:18 PM PST by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Sorry homophobes, the credibility of this story has been impeached. See: Is Rolling Stone’s HIV Story Wildly Exaggerated? Magazine says that 25 percent of all newly infected gay men are purposefully seeking HIV. Now sources quoted in the story are disputing that
66 posted on 01/23/2003 3:24:48 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
POST #18. Can't you get anything right.
67 posted on 01/23/2003 3:28:13 PM PST by Remedy
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To: jlogajan
With Fears Fading, More Gays Spurn Old Preventive Message (repost)
68 posted on 01/23/2003 3:30:15 PM PST by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Bump to read later
69 posted on 01/23/2003 3:32:32 PM PST by Alissa
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To: Remedy
I dare suggest there is only one possible response for these fools. Quarantine. The authorities need to bust up these "rings" as soon as possible and confine them before they spread HIV any further.

Regards, Ivan

70 posted on 01/23/2003 3:37:22 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Remedy
Sure, what are you kooks blaming O'Reilly for now? Making them gueers want to get infected with HIV? You guys are nuts.
71 posted on 01/23/2003 3:58:50 PM PST by Dave S
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To: yendu bwam
This is maybe the homosexual equivalent of those Japanese "daredevils" that eat Fugu fish?
72 posted on 01/23/2003 4:01:17 PM PST by ErnBatavia ((Bumperootus!))
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To: jlogajan
Another one for you FactoPhobe*:

CBC News: Disclosure - Russian Roulette

 

*FACTO

\Fac"to\, adv. [L., ablative of factum deed, fact.] (Law) In fact; by the act or fact.

pho·bi·a

( P ) Pronunciation Key (fb-) n.

A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.
A strong fear, dislike, or aversion

73 posted on 01/23/2003 4:01:48 PM PST by Remedy
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To: APBaer
Perhaps that's due to the hothouse effect of having their heads up their asses?

You mean to say that after the kitchen sink and half the zoo, there's still room?

74 posted on 01/23/2003 4:07:28 PM PST by ErnBatavia ((Bumperootus!))
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To: onedoug
from your linked article by Dennis Prager:

When Judaism demanded that all sexual activity be channeled into marriage, it changed the world

I think I now have at least a ready answer for anyone who askes why the Jews have
been the recipients of all kinds of hate over thousands of years.

It's not the right answer, but it does make it's own sense...
Lots of people hate those who tell them to keep their zippers up until the
appropriate time and place!
75 posted on 01/23/2003 4:11:17 PM PST by VOA
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To: Remedy

Would You Have A Poison Seed I Could Borrow??

76 posted on 01/23/2003 4:12:12 PM PST by Porterville
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To: Porterville
The Bugaloos
The Bugaloos
We're in the air and everywhere
Flyin' high
Flyin' loose
Flyin' free as a summer breeze

The Bugaloos
The Bugaloos
We're climbing high and diving low
Through the sky
Across the land
Straight to you with a helping hand
Ready with a helping hand
77 posted on 01/23/2003 4:12:54 PM PST by Porterville
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To: jlogajan
Sorry homophobes, the credibility of this story has been impeached.

This one Rolling Stone article is only the tip of the iceburg. There are many other references to the prevalence of the deathstyle these people pursue:

Disclosure: Russian Roulette

There are three more detailed interviews there. And any Google search reveals many many more.
78 posted on 01/23/2003 4:14:50 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Remedy
Hey, jackass, I already know what I posted. If you'd like to bring up a point or two, by all means do so.
79 posted on 01/23/2003 4:18:34 PM PST by realpatriot71 (legalize freedom!)
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To: realpatriot71
Calm down....and keep reading the next post.
80 posted on 01/23/2003 4:20:45 PM PST by Remedy
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