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Bug Chasers:The men who long to be HIV+
RollingStone.com ^ | (February 6, 2003) Edition | GREGORY A. FREEMAN

Posted on 01/23/2003 12:44:38 PM PST by Remedy

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To: Torie; Belial
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161 posted on 01/24/2003 10:01:55 AM PST by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Why Isn't Homosexuality Considered A Disorder On The Basis Of Its Medical Consequences?
162 posted on 01/24/2003 10:18:52 AM PST by EdReform (It's so easy - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/581234/posts?page=914#914)
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To: Remedy
This is definitely the craziest thing I've ever read. I simply don't believe it. It's obviously some wierd piece of fiction.
163 posted on 01/24/2003 10:24:16 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: biblewonk
HERMENEUTICAL ISSUES IN THE USE OF THE BIBLE TO JUSTIFY THE ...

Thus, the sin of the two groups of men in Sodom and Gibeah is, in both instances, the desire to engage in homosexual rape. But there is validity in connecting this sin to the violation of the norm of hospitality. There is weight to the suggestion that the desire to rape the visitors is less the expression of homosexual desire and activity per se, and more the use of forcible homosexual rape to express dominance over the strangers. This practice occurred in the Ancient Middle East when armies were defeated, and it occurs today in certain all-male settings, such as prisons.[11] This is supported by the fact that in both instances, when women were offered to the men, both groups of men initially rejected the offer. The conclusion, more clearly for Sodom than for Gibeah[12], is that the goal of homosexual rape is the male inhabitants' desire to express their dominance over the strangers.

164 posted on 01/24/2003 10:26:40 AM PST by Remedy
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To: Remedy
That doesn't seem related to wanting to be infected. The verses about demonic possession causing people to throw themselves into fire or to cut themselves while barking at the moon and sitting in a cemetary seem more related.
165 posted on 01/24/2003 10:36:58 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: biblewonk
DEATH & DOMINANCE themes abound in the links in POST#8, as well as the article. Why should they have any regard for any life, when they have no regard for their own?

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"They're incredibly selfish and self-absorbed. They don't have any idea what's going on with the epidemic in terms of the world or society or what impact their actions might have. IMHO, this is the same mindset that drives the overall gay agenda.17 posted on 01/23/2003 3:09 PM CST by r9etb

166 posted on 01/24/2003 10:53:27 AM PST by Remedy
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To: Remedy
True but my focus in both posts was the wierdness of the chasers not the infectors. In Sodom the turn on seemed to be the unwillingness of Lot and the angels. Here the wierdos want to be infected.
167 posted on 01/24/2003 11:01:22 AM PST by biblewonk
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wierdness of the chasers

They are determined to remain homosexual despite the high risk. Get the disease(s) and get on with the remainder of their short-lived life, worry free. They would rather die than abstain from homosexuality. Roman's 1 on Homosexuality, St. Paul's Argument From Nature Against Homosexuality (Romans 1).

1:28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God,51 God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what should not be done.52 1:29 They are filled53 with every kind of unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, malice. They are rife with54 envy, murder, strife, deceit, hostility. They are gossips, 1:30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, contrivers of all sorts of evil, disobedient to parents, 1:31 senseless, covenant-breakers,55 heartless, ruthless. 1:32 Although they fully know56 God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die,57 they not only do them but also approve of those who practice them.58

Inoohr_org_index.htm This essay was printed in the February 15, 1987 issue of the homosexual newspaper Gay Community News by Michael Swift, and was reprinted in the February 15-21 1987 Congressional Record. EXCERPT

We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of you shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in your all-male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us. Women, you cry for freedom. You say you are no longer satisfied with men; they make you unhappy. We, connoisseurs of the masculine face, the masculine physique, shall take your men from you then. We will amuse them; we will instruct them; we will embrace them when they weep.
If you dare to cry faggot, fairy, queer, at us, we will stab you in your cowardly hearts and defile your dead, puny bodies.
There will be no compromises. We are not middle-class weaklings. Highly intelligent, we are the natural aristocrats of the human race, and steely-minded aristocrats never settle for less. Those who oppose us will be exiled. We shall raise vast, private armies, as Mishima did, to defeat you.
We shall conquer the world because warriors inspired by and banded together by homosexual love and honor are as invincible as were the ancient Greek soldiers. The family unit spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity, hypocrisy, and violence will be abolished. The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will, must be eliminated. Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the genetic laboratory. They will be bonded together in a communal setting, under the control and instruction of homosexual savants.
We shall be victorious because we are fueled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed who have been forced to play seemingly bit parts in your dumb, heterosexual shows throughout the ages. We too are capable of firing guns and manning the barricades of the ultimate revolution. Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks!

168 posted on 01/24/2003 11:20:31 AM PST by Remedy
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To: Remedy
I remember reading that essay from 1987. It reminds me of Marylin Manson. It is well known because it is so outrageous. I know quite a few sodomites and this does not represent them at all. I'm not defending sodomites, I'm just not over reacting to the rantings of nuts.

I find it interesting that in the bible there are many cases where prostitutes are given honorable mention. In the case with King Solomon the prostitute is a better mother than a lot of what passes for mothers today. Then there is Rahab and others. But never once do you see a noteworthy sodomite. They are more likely referred to as "dogs" in the bible.

169 posted on 01/24/2003 11:42:37 AM PST by biblewonk
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I know quite a few sodomites and this does not represent them at all.

The differences between the passives and aggressives are detailed here:

The Poisoned Stream "Gay" Influence in Human History Volume One Germany 1890-1945

170 posted on 01/24/2003 11:55:17 AM PST by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Cabaj and Forstein stress that more should be done, particularly on a national level

Yeah, more should be done, such as taking them out and shooting them for spreading a deadly disease intentionally. I have always believed that homosexuality is nothing more than mental illness (as well as spiritual) and a death wish.

171 posted on 01/24/2003 12:27:20 PM PST by cmak9
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To: George W. Bush
I got a comment. They're stupid. There are lots of stupid people.
172 posted on 01/24/2003 12:52:51 PM PST by sakic
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To: Paleo Conservative
"Perhaps these bug chasers should be denied insurance coverage for HIV related illnesses."

I agree. If evidence shows they were a 'bug chaser,' then they should not get one dime from the insurance company.

In fact, if their life-insurance has a clause that states coverage is denied in the event of suicide, then their 'heirs' should not get one dime of the life insurance money when they die.

173 posted on 01/24/2003 1:03:43 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: r9etb
"I believe it's also true that homosexual men tend to have higher IQ's than the population at large."

If so, I'd have to say that this article should dispel the myth that having a high IQ is a good thing.

174 posted on 01/24/2003 1:05:53 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: Remedy
Inapposite.
175 posted on 01/24/2003 3:45:11 PM PST by Torie
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To: Remedy
Gay Nazis - The Role of Homosexuality in Nazism and Hitler's Rise

Most interesting link in Post #8 - scroll to bottom of post for this link

176 posted on 01/24/2003 8:36:16 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Remedy
You know...you are doing the absolute right thing. Thank you for taking on Sully. When I first came to freep I got into it with a certain poster and she (a ny'er) defended gays and homosexuality and Sully. I pointed to the cached websites of what he did, but she was saying "so what?!", etc.

I was alone in the thread.

There's been lots of positive changes around here since then.
177 posted on 01/24/2003 9:33:24 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Jonathon Spectre
Move over Saddam and Gamora you have just been replaced.
this is the most F'd up article I have ever read.
178 posted on 01/29/2003 12:33:45 AM PST by WolfsView
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To: Remedy; Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS; *Death Cultivation; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; Carry_Okie; ...
"If I know that he's negative and I'm [penetrating] him, it sort of gets me off. I'm murdering him in a sense, killing him slowly, and that's sort of, as sick as it sounds, exciting to me." -- RollingStone.com: News: Bug Chasers
179 posted on 10/01/2003 10:41:39 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
These people should be locked up somewhere, some kind of prison camp.
180 posted on 10/01/2003 11:38:10 PM PDT by Mortimer Snavely (Ban tag lines!)
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