Al-Qaeda is a Danger to the Free World" (Threatens nuclear attack)

Israel Defence Forces ^ | 19 January 2003 | IDF Spokesperson

[dennisw]

 

[flamefront]

The picture is misleading:

[Al qaeda] has in its possession bombs which are called "dirty bombs", and bombs with deadly viruses

[dennisw]

They want nukes but will take a dirty one if that's all there is. It's so easy to contaminate Wall Street/Manhattan with one. And to spiff it up a bit load some anthrax into it. Make the explosion real lazy so it all gets spread around/ not incinerated. A moron could put together a dirty bomb.

[Darksheare]

When it is used as a projectile in a GAU-30 Avenger cannon, and it hits something, it converts to what?
In that form it is what now?
When used in an H-bomb, it will do what?

Think about it, before saying that.

[OKSooner]

You've been reading too many funny books.

[Darksheare]

Really.
OKay.
So, tell me, what would the secondary of a Fission Fusion Fission be?
And what would the tertiary be?

[jpsb]

What is uranium used for?

Uranium metal is very dense and heavy. When it is depleted (DU), uranium is used by the military as shielding to protect Army tanks, and also in parts of bullets and missiles. The military also uses enriched uranium to power nuclear propelled Navy ships and submarines, and in nuclear weapons. Fuel used for Naval reactors is typically highly enriched in U-235 (the exact values are classified information). In nuclear weapons uranium is also highly enriched, usually over 90% (again, the exact values are classified information).

The main use of uranium in the civilian sector is to fuel commercial nuclear power plants, where fuel is typically enriched in U-235 to 2-3%. Depleted uranium is used in helicopters and airplanes as counter weights on certain wing parts. Other uses include ceramic glazes where small amounts of natural uranium (that is, not having gone through the enrichment process) may be added for color. Some lighting fixtures utilize uranium, as do some photographic chemicals. Phosphate fertilizers often contain high amounts of natural uranium, because the mineral material from which they are made is typically high in uranium. Also, people who collect rocks and minerals may have specimens of uranium minerals in their collection such as pitchblende, uraninite, autunite, uranophane, or coffinite.

[Centurion2000]

That would be the end of the Middle East

[Intimidator]

I hope el-Kandahari understands that if it happens, it will be open season on him and his ilk across America

No bag limits I hope and either sex right?

[Darksheare]

Why are you assuming that I'm talking about it being used as the primary.
It wouldn't be used as the primary.
Though it will still fission when hit by fast neutrons.
Which are produced by what kind of reaction?

[OKSooner]

What is this guy talking about with this "fission fusion fission primary tertiary wafer neutron nucular" stuff? Or is he just plain ol' nuts?

[Darksheare]

Nope. Not nuts.
But you're missing the point.
Stop assuming that Iraq doesn't have the tech to make a nuke.
The US intel boys made that mistake with North Korea.
The intel boys said, "North Korea can't make a nuke"
Lo and behold, North Korea has THREE.

And I never said nucular.
It's NUCLEAR, idiot.
Get it right, or shut your mouth.
Primary is the trigger of a nuke. It's usually plutonium.
Secondary is usually tritium. Turns the initial reaction from a fission reaction to a fusion reaction. Follow?
Tertiary is another fissionable item.
Sometimes it's DU. Since DU will fission when hit with the by products of a Fusion reaction. (Still there? Good, I'll go slow for you.)

NOW, you're assuming that I'm talking about making a plain old nuke out of only DU.
No. Go back and read it again.
The primary would be normal, the secondary would be normal, the tertiary would be DU. Which forms what after being slammed like that? (Hint: uranium oxides are formed. After a nuke blast, what would that do with said oxides? THINK first.)

Is that simple enough for you?

[OKSooner]

In the first place, jerk, I wrote "nucular" trying to have a little fun. In the second place, you're an arrogant, conceited, condescending asshole.

[Darksheare]

And you aren't an arrogant, conceited condescending asshole yourself?

Next time you try to be funny, actually do so.
And next time you try to make a quote, make it properly.

[Darksheare]

What are you crying about anyway?
I didn't take your lunch money, I didn't sleep with your girl, there was no school-yard brawl, and the Sun is out.

Of course, I COULD take your lunch money and the rest, just to 'try and have a little fun.'
Grow up, loser.

[OKSooner]

Yeah, you're right. Getting into a conversation like this with someone like you over uranium, of all things, is the most ignorant thing I've done this year. The last word is yours...

[Darksheare]

You haven't done an intelligent thing yet.
Like, actually discuss anything instead of being an insulting clod.

[NetValue]

"No bag limits I hope and either sex right?"

Right. Just as a nuke itself would not contemplate a "bag limit" or a gender discriminant.

[m16m4a3]

I will take some time to educate your butts.

There are two main types of nuclear bombs: atom bombs and hydrogen bombs. In either type of bomb, a nuclear chain reaction occurs because the nuclear material has reached critical mass. Critical mass occurs when the chain reaction of fissioning or fusing atoms is self-sustaining. There are two ways to have nuclear material reach critical mass: through high density of atoms or through just having large numbers of atoms.

Atom bombs are made from either Uranium-235 or Plutonium-239 which fission spontaneously. Critical mass can be reached by putting enough Uranium-235 in one place so that enough neutrons which are emitted continue the chain reaction, causing more atoms to fission. This type of nuclear weapon is very simple. If you have enough Uranium-235 in one place it will explode with a force of thousands of tons of dynamite.

Inside the bomb are two pieces of Uranium. At the moment of explosion the two pieces are brought together causing there to be enough fissioning uranium atoms to cause an out of control chain reaction. This is the type of bomb dropped on Hiroshima, the bomb released an explosion equivalent to 25,000 pounds of TNT. It killed 140,000 people, while injuring 100,000 more very seriously. Another way to make an atom bomb is to surround a sphere of Plutonium-239 with normal explosives so that they will squeeze the plutonium atoms into a mass of very dense atoms, causing critical mass and a sustained chain reaction that quickly gets out of control. This is the type of bomb dropped on Nagasaki three days later. (this was NOT three days after pearl harbor, pearl harbor was attacked in 1941 the bombs were dropped in 1945)

Hydrogen Bombs
Hydrogen bombs use fusion instead of fission to generate their explosions. While uranium and plutonium spontaneously fission to produce energy, hydrogen atoms resist very strongly the urge to fuse. The nuclei of hydrogen atoms is positive. Like charges repel, so it is very difficult to get the nuclei of atoms to fuse.
The only way to do it is to slam the atoms together with enough force to make them fuse. Temperatures of over 50 million degrees are necessary to make this happen. Of course, the sun has no problem maintaining these temperatures in its core, but achieving those high temperatures here on Earth is very difficult.
In order to get the hydrogen atoms to fuse together, a fission type atom bomb must be exploded first, generating the intense heat an pressure necessary to fuse the hydrogen atoms. This is the reason all nuclear power plants use the fission process. Fission happens spontaneously without the need for extreme temperatures and pressures.

What is depleted uranium? Depleted uranium is what is left over when most of the highly radioactive types (isotopes) of uranium are removed for use as nuclear fuel or nuclear weapons. Depleted uranium is mostly U238, It cant be used to make a bomb. To make a bomb you need highly enriched uranium U235 or plutonium-239 A common misconception is that radiation is depleted uranium's primary hazard. This is not the case. Depleted uranium is approximately 40 percent less radioactive than natural uranium. Depleted uranium emits alpha and beta particles, and gamma rays. Alpha particles, the primary radiation type produced by depleted uranium, are blocked by skin, while beta particles are blocked by the boots and battle dress utility uniform (BDUs) typically worn by service members. While gamma rays are a form of highly-penetrating energy , the amount of gamma radiation emitted by depleted uranium is very low. Thus, depleted uranium does not significantly add to the background radiation that we encounter every day.

When fired, or after "cooking off" in fires or explosions, the exposed depleted uranium rod poses an extremely low radiological threat as long as it remains outside the body. Taken into the body via metal fragments or dust-like particles, depleted uranium may pose a long-term health hazard to personnel if the amount is large. However, the amount which remains in the body depends on a number of factors, including the amount inhaled or ingested, the particle size and the ability of the particles to dissolve in body fluids.

The voluntary Veterans Affairs DU Medical Follow-up Program was begun in 1993-1994 with the medical evaluations of 33 friendly-fire DU-exposed veterans, many with embedded DU fragments. An additional 29 of the friendly-fire victims were later added to the surveillance program in 1999. In 1998, the program was enlarged to assess the wider Gulf War veteran community's exposure to DU through close contact with DU munitions, inhalation of smoke containing DU particulate during a fire at the Doha depot or while entering or salvaging vehicles or bunkers that were hit with DU projectiles. The published results of these medical evaluations conclude that the presence of retained DU fragments is the only scenario predictive of a high urine uranium value, and those with retained DU fragments continue to have elevated urine uranium levels nine years after the incident. It is unlikely that an individual would have an elevated urine uranium result, and consequently any uranium-related health effects, in the absence of retained DU fragments. Those individuals with normal urine uranium levels now are unlikely to develop any uranium-related toxicity in the future, regardless of what their DU exposure may have been in the Gulf War. Those DU-exposed friendly fire individuals with elevated levels of urinary uranium nine years after the Gulf War have not developed kidney abnormalities, leukemia, bone or lung cancer, or any classical uranium-related adverse outcome. The DU Medical Follow-up Program will continue to evaluate these individuals with elevated urine uranium levels to enable early detection of potential untoward health effects in the future due to their continued chronic exposure to DU.

The depleted uranium because of its high density is used in armor-piercing munitions and in enhanced armor protection for some Abrams tanks. Is also used in civilian industry, for stabilizers or counterweights in airplanes, rockets, boats, and radiation sheilding. It is also very cheap for the weapons industry because there arent meny uses for the leftover U238 which is highly regulated by the NRC, nuclear regulatory commission.

What about all the birth defects and other ill-effects that people blame depleted uranium for in iraq and quwait? How about all the chemical weapons dumped all over the place from saddam, all the chemical weapons we (the unitedstates) blew up, the burning oil fields, the millions of gallons of oil dumped into the gulf, The attack in which eight israeli F-16's obliterated saddam's French built Osirak reactor near Baghdad, the radium and asbestos in all the old soviet tanks we blew up.... the list is endless.