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To: robertpaulsen
California can't do it. Please refer to Natural law , the Declaration of Independence and inalienable rights. The Constitution doesn't grant "rights".

Can California force it's citizens to quarter troops in their homes ? After all the California Constitution doesn't address that "right' either. By the way the California Constitution does recognize the right to own private property and the "right of self defense". Gee,it even says:

SECTION 1. All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.

JUST WHAT CAN ONE PROTECT HIS LIFE, LIBERTY PROPERTY AND SAFETY WITH ? No, it's not a cell phone !

501 posted on 01/21/2003 10:15:53 PM PST by lawdog
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To: lawdog; robertpaulsen
Yep, this post by Paulsen is probably the most candid on the thread. Follow his replies and he admits that a state can ban the RKBA's, and that he doesn't care because 'its the law'. Incredible:

From tpaine:
"States can no more prohibit drugs, -- than they can guns."


Can you point out where in the California State Constitution an individual has the right to keep and bear arms?
I'll save you the time. It's nowhere to be found.
California did not "bring over" the 2nd amendment as part of the 14th. California is one of only five states whose constitutions are silent on the issue of gun rights, including Iowa, Minnesota, New Jersey and New York.
California can ban all guns. Right now, they choose not to.
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503 posted on 01/21/2003 11:35:58 PM PST by tpaine
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To: lawdog
"The Constitution doesn't grant "rights"."

No, it doesn't. But keep in mind that the Constitution puts limits on the Federal government, not the state governments. State governments were allowed to do what they wished.

For example, Massachusetts had a state funded established religion (Congregationalism) until 1825, 36 years after the Bill of Rights was passed. So be careful when applying the Constitution to a state.

The 14th amendment (ratified after the Civil War in 1868) applied much of the Federal Constitution to the states. I said "much", not all. The 2nd, 5th, and 7th amendments remain unincorporated.

To answer your question, no, California cannot force it's citizens to quarter troops in their homes since that is against the 3rd amendment which is incorporated.

507 posted on 01/22/2003 8:14:28 AM PST by robertpaulsen (Proud Member of the NRA)
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