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Gay baths raid slammed -'forces' sex between gays out into the streets and into public view
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Posted on 01/11/2003 5:30:12 AM PST by chance33_98



Gay baths raid slammed

But Calgary cops defend upholding law By CP

CALGARY -- A police raid has forced sex between gay men from the confines of a bathhouse out into the streets and in public view, say leaders of Calgary's gay community.

"I think what you're going to see is an increase in that activity until either the bathhouse is open again or an alternative facility (is introduced)," said Roy Heale, publisher of Calgary's gay magazine, Outlooks.

The number of encounters recorded since the Dec. 11 closure of Goliath's Sauna and Texas Lounge has increased significantly, members of the gay community heard when they attended a meeting this week to discuss the issue.

Heale said Calgary's Glenmore Park is one of the favourite destinations for men who want a sexual encounter but choose not to -- or are unable to -- "come out" because of professional or personal responsibilities.

"Bathhouses in any city are quite often the place to go when you want a lot of privacy and you don't want to be seen in a bar or a restaurant -- and quite often it tends to be married men or bisexuals," he said.

"Once a person comes out, they're comfortable at the bars, the clubs ... a bathhouse has been a bit of a sanctuary for gay or bisexual men who want to maintain secrecy about what they're doing."

COMMON BAWDY HOUSE

Most major cities in Canada have at least one bathhouse similar to the one in Calgary, said Heale.

Another important benefit of bathhouses is how they promote safe sex, said Stephen Lock, who sits on the gay and lesbian communities police liaison committee.

"Safer sex information can be more easily disseminated (at a bathhouse) and there's certain peer pressure to practise safe sex." Lock said 13 men, many of them married, face charges relating to the bust, which he called ill-conceived, due to the fact the bathhouse was a private establishment. The owners and two employees have been charged with keeping a common bawdy house.

Police concede the raid has harmed relations with the city's gay community but maintain they were acting on a complaint of illicit behaviour.


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1 posted on 01/11/2003 5:30:13 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98

Donating to FR will make you this happy!



2 posted on 01/11/2003 5:32:01 AM PST by chance33_98 (Praise the Lord and pass the donations!)
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To: chance33_98
CALGARY -- A police raid has forced sex between gay men from the confines of a bathhouse out into the streets and in public view, say leaders of Calgary's gay community.

"I think what you're going to see is an increase in that activity until either the bathhouse is open again or an alternative facility (is introduced)," said Roy Heale, publisher of Calgary's gay magazine, Outlooks.

How about taking it to a hotel/motel/private residence?????

3 posted on 01/11/2003 5:38:43 AM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
This gives new meaning to the term "coming out of the closet", in this case literally and onto public streets. It's a revealing commentary on the gay community that they don't think they as a group have enough restraint to find a private place to do their thing. Pretty sick if you ask me.
4 posted on 01/11/2003 5:45:50 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: Arkie2
Restraint, decency, and common sense.
5 posted on 01/11/2003 6:01:16 AM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: chance33_98
Haven't they wanted that kind of public attention all along?
6 posted on 01/11/2003 6:03:49 AM PST by Utmost Certainty
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To: chance33_98
And the queers say there is no difference between them and us straight people.
7 posted on 01/11/2003 6:04:00 AM PST by glockmeister40
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To: ET(end tyranny)
If these freaks think what they are doing to each other is normal then way do they have to hide in a bath house????
8 posted on 01/11/2003 6:05:08 AM PST by LetsRok
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To: chance33_98
Of course, they have NO CHOICE but to screw in the streets, in front of everyone else.

Didn't the homofascist say the buggers liked the bathhouse because no one they knew would see them?
9 posted on 01/11/2003 6:11:46 AM PST by Guillermo (Sic em')
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To: chance33_98
"Safer sex information can be more easily disseminated (at a bathhouse) and there's certain peer pressure to practise safe sex."


Notice the word "safer", not safe. They are lying to themselves.

It has been almost 20 years since we first heard about AIDs. At this point in time, no one should be infected with this desease. We know what it is, and we know how it spreads, and we know how it can be contained.

But as the first polictically correct desease, it is protected. I have to wonder about the sanity of homosexuals.

It is a little like the Democrats. If they would have taken the hit on Bill Clinton, and impeached him, Al Gore would be President today.

If the Homosexual community would have followed standard practices in fighting STD, AIDs would not have gotten as established in the "gay" community as it has.

The homosexuals fought against acts that would have controlled the spread of the desease, and now 20 years later it is still being spread.

I can have sympathy for a fellow human being as they waste away from a desease, but I have no sympathy for "gay" activist who wish to continue down a deadly path, all the while crying society is not doing enough for them.

Living in Northern California with the major newspapers coming out of San Francisco I have read stories where the younger "gay" men upset because they missed out in the golden age of homosexuallity of free sex before AIDs. I have also read that some do not follow safe sex practices because they want to get the desease (for reasons I can not understand). And I have read of stories of "gay" men, once they have AIDs willing to spread the desease (again for reasons I can not understand.)

These are anecdotal stories to be sure, and may not represent the homosexual community at large, but then if you (figuratively) watch the action of "gays" they would seem to be true.

As an observer on life I would have to say, coming out of the closet for "gay" men may have not been the best thing to happen to them, only time will tell.

10 posted on 01/11/2003 6:15:48 AM PST by riversarewet (The rules have changed, it is just some have not yet noticed.)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
The homosexual community is marked for it's preference to anonymous sex with multiple partners.

A hotel/motel isn't going to provide the sort of access they prefer.
11 posted on 01/11/2003 6:22:02 AM PST by Maelstrom (Government Limited to Enumerated Powers is your freedom to do what isn't in the Constitution.)
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To: riversarewet
>>..I have also read that some do not follow safe sex practices because they want to get the desease (for reasons I can not understand)...<<

I would tend to think that they want it in order to become a sort of martyr.

They already have an indentity crisis if they're attracted to other men. With AIDS they can host a pity party and all their friends will come (er...attend).

12 posted on 01/11/2003 6:24:03 AM PST by FReepaholic
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To: Maelstrom
Man on man action exposed to the masses!

13 posted on 01/11/2003 6:24:49 AM PST by new cruelty (Where there is a Will (or Todd, Mark, John, David, Tom, RICHARD, or Harry, etc.), there is a way.)
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To: chance33_98
I have no personal knowledge of gay bathhouses, but I'm just speculating that they have to be petri dishes for all kinds of disease...heat, moisture everywhere including the air, exposed mucous membranes--do they use lots of bleach and industrial strength disinfectant in those places?

I just can't imagine even walking into one...

14 posted on 01/11/2003 6:28:54 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: chance33_98; MadIvan
I have quite a few gay friends, and wouldn't consider myself in the slightest bit homophobic.

But I find this whole 'bath house' mentality, both disturbing and dangerous.

And are we supposed to feel SORRY for these married gays? I feel sorry for their hood-winked (and dare I say stupid wives) who pick up the STD's they bring home from the bath house.
15 posted on 01/11/2003 6:33:33 AM PST by Happygal
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To: Happygal
They're trying to have it both ways ---first they say the government can't interfere in any way in their lives, when they get AIDS then they say the government must pay for their medicines and hospitalizations and protect them from job loss etc.
16 posted on 01/11/2003 6:54:54 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Maelstrom
A hotel/motel isn't going to provide the sort of access they prefer.

Why not?

17 posted on 01/11/2003 6:59:46 AM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: chance33_98
I do not want to be that happy(gay).
18 posted on 01/11/2003 7:03:30 AM PST by retiredtexan
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To: chance33_98
"I think what you're going to see is an increase in that activity until either the bathhouse is open again or an alternative facility (is introduced)," said Roy Heale, publisher of Calgary's gay magazine, Outlooks.

Although I have no problem with bathhouses.. (errr...'cept I'd never set foot near one.).... or sex between heteros in such places, for that matter...

.... Don't they have beds in Canada? Bedrooms? Houses?? Apartments? Motels?

19 posted on 01/11/2003 7:09:27 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: Arkie2
have enough restraint to find a private place to do their thing

Well, the bathhouse was a private place. Which is what is odd.

Why not just put up warning signs on the door, no underage entry, etc.. and let them be?

20 posted on 01/11/2003 7:11:51 AM PST by DAnconia55
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