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Thursday, January 2, 2003

Quote of the Day by thinktwice

1 posted on 01/01/2003 11:13:48 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: *bang_list
"But the bill is about how [a toy gun] makes people feel. If I feel threatened, I'm threatened."

At least he admits this isn't about logic, reality, good sense, or responsible legislating.
2 posted on 01/01/2003 11:21:19 PM PST by Djarum
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To: JohnHuang2; Djarum
The bill in City Council, on the other hand, would ban anything that can "reasonably be perceived to be an actual firearm," which would mean a total ban on imitation firearms - regardless of color or markings.

They're also going to have to ban jackets with pockets, then. Point one's index finger within the pocket...

3 posted on 01/01/2003 11:44:16 PM PST by Chemist_Geek
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To: JohnHuang2
Reply to post #1: As ex-communist David Horowitz has always said, "when dealing with the left the issue is never the issue, the issue is always the marxist revolution". In the issue of toy guns this is also the case. The goal of the left is to replace the United States Government with a soviet style state. The largest stumbling block they face is an armed populace which has to be removed if the marxist conquest of the U.S. is to succeed. This means that the gun culture has to be destroyed and so the left is conducting a nationwide campaign to remove and demonize toy guns amongst our young so when they grow up they won't have an interest in firearms and passing anti-gun legislation and removing the 2nd amendment from our constitution will be in the bag. What this means is,is that we as Americans must counter the left's diabolical tactic by developing an interest in firearms in our children at a very early age. If we don't, our nation will without a doubt, become an American soviet state.
4 posted on 01/01/2003 11:54:25 PM PST by A6M3
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To: JohnHuang2
"We recognize that you can't pull all guns off the streets: If people have a criminal mind, they'll make a gun out of a stick," says Bill Wren, deputy chief of staff for Brooklyn Councilman Al Vann

I can't believe that nearly every kid I went to primary school with had a criminal mind.

5 posted on 01/02/2003 1:48:02 AM PST by Oztrich Boy
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To: JohnHuang2
He says that one time when disciplined, his son "pointed his water gun at me."

I'm surprised this wussy didn't lock the kid up for a couple of years.

6 posted on 01/02/2003 1:56:37 AM PST by Rome2000
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To: JohnHuang2
"Like toy cigarettes, they're promoting something violent,"

Huh???

7 posted on 01/02/2003 3:12:14 AM PST by The Duke
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To: JohnHuang2
And in New York, the site of many toy-gun fatalities, City Council members have introduced a bill to ban the sale of all toy guns - a ban that has not yet passed anywhere in the US.

Those toy guns are always killing people. I'll bet they're in cahoots with the evil SUVs.

9 posted on 01/02/2003 4:06:13 AM PST by metesky
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To: JohnHuang2
The Constitution doesn't explicitly protect our right to own toy guns the way it protects real ones... although that would probably be considered a natural right, and therefore protected.
10 posted on 01/02/2003 4:10:55 AM PST by xm177e2
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To: dd5339; cavtrooper21
Idiocy alert! Better rush out & get the Red Ryder now!
12 posted on 01/02/2003 10:31:19 AM PST by Vic3O3
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"Giving our kids toy guns and then telling them to stay away from the real thing sends a mixed message," says Farideh Kioumehr, ...

Why? Don't your kids have more than one working brain cell?

13 posted on 01/02/2003 10:50:59 AM PST by TigersEye
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To: JohnHuang2
This is why children should be TAUGHT to shoot, and "given" real guns to "own," and use under REAL Adult supervision...as so many of us were. So they know what it is, and how they are expected to behave with them. Strange how the generation's children who were denied this parenting, are the ones who are punching holes in themselves, getting loaded, killing themselves, and eachother. Strange. Movies and music lyrics have changed too. Odd. There COULDN'T be a connection, or indication of something. That would be so inconvenient to admit that it MUST be wrong...because obviously, liberal values are "good" by definition. Right ?!

We were also taught that Police were our friends, and not to point toy guns at them. I remember walking down the main street of my suburban town with a friend, in the mid- '60s, wearing Boy Scout uniforms, and carrying a deactivated Nazi Teller Mine, and a 105mm Panzer Shreck bazooka over my shoulder, which we had just bought from a collector...and the uniformed policeman across the street, doing crossing-guard duty at the Junior High school, just laughed an rolled his eyes. That's when Democrats were normal, conservative people, and it was your civic duty to be polite, and law-abiding. Hmmmm. This couldn't be true. It's the opposite of our agenda, which we KNOW has got to be "correct."





14 posted on 01/02/2003 11:16:03 AM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: JohnHuang2
Hey, what a great parody! But you incorrectly attributed it to the Christian Science Monitor when it's really from The Onion, right? Uh...it's a parody, right? It's just a joke? Please, please tell me this is just a joke...
17 posted on 01/02/2003 11:33:13 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks for the post. Bang

First, the rangemaster at a local range went to British Columbia to shoot in a air gun turnament. At the boarder they saw his NRA badges and he told them he was going to a shooting turnament. The had him pull over for a vehicle search and they took his air pistol inside to examine. Had it looked anything like a "real handgun" he would not have been allowed to have it and might have had real problems. Luckily it was a competition model that is pretty strange looking.

Second, there was a City in the UK, where it is illegal to sell sharp object (knives, siscors, letter openers, culterly sets, etc) to anyone under 18. I kid you not, even sewing kits are illegal to sell to minors because of the stitch puller and small scissors.

Third, while such air pistols look very real and have cause people who use them to be shot by police (this happened last summer in Seattle). Still, how much should society go to protect stupid people from themselves.

Finally, a law like proposed is like too vauge to pass consitutional muster. Maybe we should suggest to them that they do the assault weapon thing where they define "evil looking characteristics" (i.e. it is a dark color or bright shiny, that it has a hole to simulate a barrel, that it has what looks like a trigger guard, it has a handgrip.... No wait, I could be holding either some kind of lable maker or maybe a video game remote control unit.

20 posted on 01/02/2003 1:43:15 PM PST by Robert357
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To: JohnHuang2
"...Their crime added fuel to a toy-gun scare that's sweeping the country:..."

It's bad here...

All afternoon we've been pinned down by automatic weapon fire...

I'm getting reports on the shortwave that there was a shipment of toy guns hijacked north of here yesterday... Apparently local warlords are trying to consolidate their power so as to be in as strong a position as possible when whoever has the toy guns makes their move.

Oh crap!

We've had a very bright flash, south southwest of here...

Someone lit up a nuke...

We're going to groun

21 posted on 01/02/2003 3:16:44 PM PST by DWSUWF
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To: JohnHuang2
This just in,Teen Allegedly Brandishing Fake Gun Fatally Shot By Police

Video report (Real Player )

22 posted on 01/02/2003 8:31:19 PM PST by csvset
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