California: Solving budget with rule change - (it's that pesky rule about a two-thirds majority )

The Stockton Record ^ | Saturday, December 28, 2002 | Will Shuck Capitol Bureau Chief

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

See this!

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Same damn story over and over again. When the whiney ass liberals don't get what they want...they simply try to change the rules.
To hell with what the sheeple may or may not want.

[Carry_Okie]

He said he has talked to some groups that might be interested in helping but declined to name them. Labor groups have supported the idea in the past.

Anybody capable of rubbing two neurons together knows he's talking about the California Teacher's Association, so why doesn't he have the balls to just say so?

Rhetorical question.

[goldstategop]

Let them make our day. Contrary to what John Longville thinks the voters will balk at turning over the car keys to the kids. The two-thirds vote is California's only protection against being completely gutted by the same crowd that's demonstrated its inability to keep the state's financial house in order. A repeal of it won't pass the State Legislature and its DOA at the ballot box. I say to our tax and spend Democrats, bring it on!!!

[proxy_user]

Sounds good to me. The Republicans can all vote against tax increases, and they will still pass. When everything turns out to be a disaster, they can say 'We told you so, now vote for us'.

Sometimes experience is the only possible teacher.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I really like that graphic!

ROFL!!

[The Obstinate Insomniac]

I think we need more super Majority requirements before the government can spend any money or pass new laws and regulations. We could allow a simple majority to cancel already approved spending or to rescind old laws and regulations. Pure democracy needs to be tempered in order to prevent what would otherwise be it’s decent into the tyranny of the majority.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

The California Teacher's Association -- Hmm!

Perhaps that is why Davis proposes to cut the schools budget heavily.

Would help with motivating all of those votes!

[goldstategop]

Our message is even more powerful: The Democrats have already increased your taxes. Don't give them the opportunity to pick what little money is left in your wallet, which belongs to you. Keep the two thirds vote in the Constitution to keep them honest. Vote down the Democrats' shameless total power grab.

[Howie]

"McNally predicted that "a large number of Californians would go ballistic."

It's possible!

[szweig]

Howzabout this -- the Kalifornia Legislature be restricted to a twenty-day term - period. This would require extreme prioritizing and hence the B.S. will never get to a vote. What d'y'all think?

[snopercod]

Let them make our day. Contrary to what John Longville thinks the voters will balk at turning over the car keys to the kids.

The republicans could have a field day with this by running issue adds. Why the heck are they not doing that? Lack of money, or lack of confidence?

[goldstategop]

I think we should have two legislative sessions a year limited to 180 days maximum, three months in the spring and three months in the fall. That way they do less mischief and damage than they would meeting year around.

[goldstategop]

They will. We'll see if the Demcrats are stupid enough to put it on the ballot.

[Lancey Howard]

When everything turns out to be a disaster, they can say 'We told you so, now vote for us'.

Kill California in order to save California?
No, I don't think changing the Constitution is a good idea. I mean, if you want the Republicans to help the scumbags finish their destruction of California, the Republicans can just give them the small handful of votes they need.

[Riverman94610]

Fortunately,even many Democrats would vote against this one party rule,tax crazy scheme if it ever came up in a ballot.
Should it ever pass,however,the migration OUT of Cali would accelerate rapidly.

[drypowder]

It is my sense that what needs to be changed is to cut the full time legilasture back to 3 months per year. That would be an immediate savings in what those ding dongs bleed from the public as well as giving them less time to pass costly and rediculous laws. According to Michael Medved, one of the largest drains on the California budget today is for all of the state agencies and the legal system trying to comply with all of the politically correct laws and give away programs that are currently active.

[NormsRevenge]

Assemblywoman Barbara Matthews, D-Tracy, wouldn't commit to supporting the measure, but she said she likes the concept.

"I know that in theory, asking for two-thirds is well-intentioned," she said. "But just because we hold out for a two-thirds vote doesn't mean the budget gets better. It might make it worse. I mean, you're talking about a very small number of people being able to hold it up, and that doesn't mean they're right."

I mean, you're talking about a very small number of people being able to hold it up, and that doesn't mean they're right.

It bears repeating ... "that doesn't mean they're right." or that you are, A$$emblywoman. This is the best California has to offer to lead it?
W.A.S.S.